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Well a unseemingly unattractive ring. Going for Big money! Hope the link works:
https://www.ebay.de/itm/385721501946?hash=item59cecb08fa:g:qv8AAOSw2hxknqYL&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA4E4mTUfQfnWRs7OdW3w8tEhor8NxzQaJdO74eld3d3x54vD1sL3%2BPgMPYbDRh%2FG8b1B1W4j5lRNC13VADsaIuDnQXgjvKfOOnF8eAxuDPf3Jbcp50b%2BI6D6bub1n7Rdi%2B4NQJhjtpTsQk8eodz2sKyiEtjJbtD8JLUJQeXqCmzHn%2Foim%2BQFqIM8DVRWOX8ZaDe43fHmSZVo1lO67MXSxAuNXJxNsQ8AIuW8cSCFNhlN8%2BmEuYklmJAa5XbG
Link doesn't work for whatever reason.n. Its on German eBay ,,here is title ,,put this on and see it all: FRANKFURT - RÖMERBERGRING FÜR KUNST UND KULTUR
3 sides have design. The front [cartouche] and one to right of it and other to left of it>>
Some photos...
Have some resizing to do on document ,,,,which is what maybe someone can translate for us.. Be back!!
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TEST,, TRANSLATION.. Sorry its so small.. Best I can do for now..Thank you:
#1,,,Right side of doc....
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In fancy leather folder... Ring, box,,document.. 7.9000euro!!
IF too small please let me know and I might be able to try something else................................
Left side of doc....
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This is what is posted for description..
Any translations will be helpful.. Thanks in advance immensely!!
" FRANKFURT - RÖMERBERGRING FÜR KUNST UND KULTUR.
Goldener Fingerring 585 Gold. Auf der Schauseite der Frankfurter Römer, beidseitig flankiert von zwei Frankfurter Adlern. Auf der Innenseite die Verleihungsgravur "Robert Taube 1937". Im orig. Leder-Verleihungsetui. Dazu großformatige Verleihungsurkunde vom 1. Juli 1937 in original Mappe. Hüsken 04.07.00.
* Robert Taube (1880-1964) gehörte während des Dritten Reiches neben Heinrich George zu den großen Persönlichkeiten des Bühnenschauspiels und besaß das Prädikat "Staatsschauspieler", er gastierte u. a. am Wiener Joseph Stadttheater und in Berlin. Nach Auskunft des Frankfurter Stadtmuseums sind von diesem Ring insgesamt nur 3 Exemplare verliehen worden. Rarität und sicherlich nicht wieder zu beschaffen."
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This is what is posted for description..
Any translations will be helpful.. Thanks in advance immensely!!
" FRANKFURT - RÖMERBERGRING FÜR KUNST UND KULTUR.
Goldener Fingerring 585 Gold. Auf der Schauseite der Frankfurter Römer, beidseitig flankiert von zwei Frankfurter Adlern. Auf der Innenseite die Verleihungsgravur "Robert Taube 1937". Im orig. Leder-Verleihungsetui. Dazu großformatige Verleihungsurkunde vom 1. Juli 1937 in original Mappe. Hüsken 04.07.00.
* Robert Taube (1880-1964) gehörte während des Dritten Reiches neben Heinrich George zu den großen Persönlichkeiten des Bühnenschauspiels und besaß das Prädikat "Staatsschauspieler", er gastierte u. a. am Wiener Joseph Stadttheater und in Berlin. Nach Auskunft des Frankfurter Stadtmuseums sind von diesem Ring insgesamt nur 3 Exemplare verliehen worden. Rarität und sicherlich nicht wieder zu beschaffen." Hey Gaspare, Below is a translation to English of the above text: "FRANKFURT - RÖMERBERGRING FOR ART AND CULTURE. Gold finger ring in 585 gold. On the front the Frankfurt Römer (city hall), flanked on both sides by two Frankfurt eagles. On the inside the award engraving "Robert Taube 1937". In the original leather case. Comes with large-format award certificate dated 1 July 1937 in original folder. Hüsken 04.07.00. * Robert Taube (1880-1964) belonged to the great personalities of stage acting during the Third Reich, alongside Heinrich George, and held the title of 'State Actor'; he made guest appearances at the Joseph Stadttheater in Vienna and in Berlin. According to information from the Frankfurt City Museum, only 3 copies of this ring have been awarded. Rarity and certainly not to be procured again.
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S Vb,,,,thanks SO much...
But I just can't believe it.. This ring is horrible in both quality and design.. The engraving is also horrible.. I think the document is probably authentic,,,but the ring was made up to go with it..
For $800. worth of gold or so you have a $8000. ring box, document combo.. No, not for me..........
S Vb,, thanks so much again!!
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Seems like Robert Taube, a Riga-born German actor who died in 1961 aged 80, was more of a local German hero of stage and film than an international star. There is very little information about him that I can find online. I guess the seller reckons there is inflated value in the ring's rarity: only three were awarded. I wonder who to, and why. I wonder how many were made. It'll be interesting to see what this ring actually sells for. Probably nowhere near $8000..... Stephen p.s. To find it on eBay, go to https://www.ebay.de/ Then just search for RÖMERBERGRING. It will pop right up.
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,,,, one photos is standard blanks anyone could get..
The next 2 photos are for special rings.....
Looking at the Taube ring is looks like a unprofessional made it. I mean not worthy of the event it was awarded for..
Poor details all around inside and out.... I'm not going for it.. My opinion is the document is real,,and the box maybe period also [which is nothing special!] ,,,, the gold ring all went together to get the most money it can bring in .. For me no way is that the ring awarded to Taube.. JMHO...
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photo credit WAF: I knew I remembered something with the city of Frankfurt ring.. Here is the "FRANKFURT - RÖMERBERGRING FOR ART AND CULTURE.. I think there was another for Honor ring for city of Frankfurt... BUT,,,all were beauties... The 1st ring shown,,sorry to say I don't know what it is but it certainly doesn't bring any honor or an award from the city.. Just a terrible looing ring.. Here are the photos from WAF Won't let me post photos!!!! Here is a link of a beautiful City of Frankfurt ring!! https://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/fo...den-honour-ring-of-the-city-of-frankfurt
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if anyone could get a photo off that topic and get it able to post here I would most appreciate it!...,, Thanks ,.G.
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if anyone could get a photo off that topic and get it able to post here I would most appreciate it!...,, Thanks ,.G. The ring on WAF is a cracker for sure. Beautifully made. I agree with you Gaspare that the one that started this post looks like scrap metal compared to this beauty here. Cheers, Stephen Photo credit: Wehrmacht-Awards.com
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Thanks so much Stephen for photo and comments...
Yeah right, at least something in the middle of the 2. That first one is just junk.. Worth weight in gold... Not something you give out as something special.... Real quiet here,,maybe the guys like the first one!!.. Come on,,whos awake out there.. That first one,,,do you guys thing that is a 'special award ring??!!
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Hello,
I did also notice first ring on Ebay.de and thought the exact same : not the quality expected for such an award, or let's say..........pure junk !
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