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Baz69 #353919 03/03/2022 11:01 PM
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Hay Guys
So is that "The Twist"
This has been he most informative thread on the site, to me at least. I love these knives, but do not own one, yet.
Thank you all for your post and information. Knowing the history behind the knives is all that makes them great.
There were millions of daggers, but the Dula's are far and few. You guys have many of them. Thanks.
I get kind of excited when I see a early Puma White Hunter at a gun show.
Ed

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Gary and other posters on this thread. Believe me I'm more frustrated than you are.. I have to find a outlet to get the information out there and yet keep the VALUE of what I have collected . That is complicated and time consuming. Would collectors buy a series of factual articles or books???
Gary I will no longer post on a thread if I'm not willing to share ALL the information I have on that subject..

P.S. I do not have information on how knives were marked by F. Dula after 1945

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Baz69 #355376 08/01/2022 07:24 PM
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Just appeared on WAF - used in Vietnam !

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Baz69 #358177 05/27/2023 10:00 PM
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This used and abused, F. Dula Waidblatt arrived on May 26, 2023, from Montana. The small F. Dula Jagdnicker is missing. The Waidblatt with sheath cost just under $445.00 with free shipping.

The back of the sheath loop does not have the "buttonhole". The F. Dula with the 1937 date that Gary posted also looks to be missing the "buttonhole" on the back of the sheath loop.

The front of the sheath is rather plain with no decoration on the top of the sheath or the pocket for the Jagdnicker. The actual color of the sheath is a very dark brown.

My special thanks to Gary for all the F. Dula schooling. Also, thanks to Bill Warda, Royboy, Paul, Gerrit, Dave and all those that made comments on this thread.

Best Regards, C. Wetzel-20609.

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F. Dula, / D.R.G.M. Firma Dula, Marburg (Lahn)
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F. Dula, / D.R.G.M. Firma Dula, Marburg (Lahn)
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F. Dula, / D.R.G.M. Firma Dula, Marburg (Lahn)
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F. Dula, / D.R.G.M. Firma Dula, Marburg (Lahn)
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F. Dula, / D.R.G.M. Firma Dula, Marburg (Lahn)
Baz69 #358178 05/28/2023 09:34 AM
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Interesting Dula, you got to get whatever you can with these knives, they are so rare, this one has been through the ringer for sure though it is a nice example, the blade looks to have been reground, good luck on finding a small knife for it, the sheath is a rare type without any decoration on it but it does have the "v" shape on the top of the pocket for the small knife, the scabbard does looks to be very similar to the one I show, only the 2nd one without the buttonhole I've ever seen.

Congrats on finding an original example.

Gary

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Thank you, very kindly Gary,

I did notice the V-shape notched Nicker pouch but did not mention it, I should have.

I don't expect to find the matching Nicker but who knows as I never thought I would find an F. Dula or one I could afford.

Here are close-up pictures of the V-shape notched Nicker pouch and the F. Dula maker's mark.

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V-shape notched Nicker pouch on sheath.
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F. Dula maker's mark
Baz69 #358181 05/28/2023 09:37 PM
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Looks like a great find to me, so, no nicker, but a super find at less than $450.
Wish I could find one.
Ed

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Gary noted "the blade looks to have been reground" he is correct.

It would appear that this knife had at one time some rust and light surface pitting, and someone removed the rust with a fine belt grinder.

Then someone using a medium-course belt grinder tried to sharpen the blade. The result is a collector's nightmare with deep scratches that go over the center ridge line.

Tiny pitting marks are still evident on the top of the blade.

The pictures of the knife for sale were not very clear but I could tell it was messed with. I still put in a bid over $600.00 to win this rare knife.

And Ed, keep looking and maybe someday you will find a nicer F. Dula, and your wish will come true.

C. Wetzel-20609.

Baz69 #358313 06/14/2023 05:39 AM
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I found this undated image of a German Waidblatt with sheath and small skinning knife by E. & F. Horster. I found this image on the Hubertus products site.

The Hubertus Waidblatt set was made in cooperation with Carl Eickhorn, and both the Hubertus and Carl Eickhorn Waidblatt have a spacer between the stag handle and the guard.

It would appear that the prototype by Frevert shown in the July 1935 book posted by Gary, also had this spacer but is missing on the F. Dula marked Waidblatt.

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F. Dula, Waidblatt (no spacer)
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Baz69 #358485 07/11/2023 05:58 PM
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Waidblatt, F. Dula, Marburg (Lahn) advertisement placed in the 23 Dec. 1938 issue of "Deutsches Waidwerk".

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Deutsches Waidwerk, Dec. 23, 1938, Waidblatt advertisement.
Baz69 #358498 07/13/2023 02:39 PM
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Nice!! this is some topic too! Gets better all the time..


I nominate Baz and C. W. 20609 for one of those 'Good Topic badges" !!

Baz69 #358502 07/13/2023 06:45 PM
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Please give Baz (Gary) all the credit for this thread. He is the teacher, and I am his student.

I first learned about the F. Dula, Waidblatt from the site of T. T. Wittmann (UNMARKED F. DULA), about two years ago.

However, after I read about this "F Dula with a twist" thread on German Daggers.com and bought an F. Dula for myself, I learned from Gary's information here that the "UNMARKED F. DULA" offered by T.T. Wittmann is actually probably an unmarked or marker's mark removed, Eickhorn product.

I informed T. T. Wittmann who said he would remove the Waidblatt from his site on 26 May 2023. However, Wittmann's # 39820, "UNMARKED F. DULA" is still listed on his site for $3,250.00. I still have the utmost respect for the knowledge of T. T. Wittmann. We all have made mistakes because "research is subject to change".

Reply of May 26, 2023, from T. T. Wittmann:

"Dear Mr. Wetzel,

Well, I guess I am pleased to receive your email concerning the F. Dula
that I thought was period. With the research you have sent, I have no doubt
that my example is post-war, which explains its differences from the period
pieces. Well, there goes $3000 out the window - damn. No matter how long
we are in this hobby, no one always knows everything and I don't think a day
goes by that I don't learn something new in this interesting and somewhat
difficult hobby.

Well, thanks for letting me know. I'll take the Dula down from our website.

Best,

Thomas T. Wittmann"

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