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We come across quite a few unknown maker marks so if you have a maker mark and its unknown, lets post them here and just maybe we can figure out who the maker is. Thank you.

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I am on vacation for a week so not here. But , yes please go ahead here. Very difficult because the hallmarking law excluded 'ssmall items', which means rings. But there are a few weird ones out there.



SO ,
IF you have a hallmark on a Ring , fob , cufflinks , Cigg case , tie clip , broach, etc. post them here and maybe some new findings will come out!

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Mikee, a nice initiative here, because discovering the origin of the silvermark enlarges the knowledge of the history of our rings.

Gaspare, let’s hope many members wil respond to this interesting topic .

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Here a ring from an American vet from Sicily 1943 with a silvermark 800? inside a diamond shape. Most likely it is an Italian mark , which knows different shapes with 800.
https://www.silvercollection.it/italianhallmarks.html

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Hey benten,

Thanks, can't agree more and it's certainly needed. Hopefully we can solve this. Best!

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Benten,,

I think that just being a content mark and the blank doesn't have the Fascio etc. mark ,,,its a band made for export... Remember the non stamping of hallmarks on small items was accepted everywhere even the US during the war / before and after and most countries.. For export they were worried about the material and the silver content. In this case its 800... Thats a fine ring you got there!

OK guys,,,maybe a translation for this one! [first time I ever saw it]. It is a very early German band , probably early 1920s:

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I'm thinking Sum is total or guarantee and Platin is Platinum. My guess for now.

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Sum is a abbreviation maybe.

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Gaspare, that it very good info. Thanks.

Mikee I think you are on the right way .

SUM-platin
Could be a kind of trade name for a chemical alloy, plating or wash .
In chemistry, the German word “Summenformel”, wich is a formula of chemicals .
Just a guess.

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Benten,, I think thats the best we're going to get,,,,thanks..

A good site I hope many have seen already..

http://www.nobelantik.dk/www/Fgerman_marks_a1884.html


And,, here are other countries for our period. Remember, Germany and other countries rarely maker marked their 'small' pieces so most don't have anything except a silver content:

https://www.830-1000.dk/foreign_marks.html

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benten,

Without a maker mark I think your right the 800 content mark within a diamond is going to be key. It's going to be a tough one to crack.

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Yes Mikee, we have the time smile

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Saw this on German eBay.. A blank ring someone had carved all up with nonsense..

The hallmark quite clear though,,835,,and what looks like a lion ... Wartime? postwar? Maybe someone knows.............

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The shape of the lion looks like the " symbol" of the Brunswick lion statue.

There is also various tinnies with this lion.

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