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I am sorry I have no picture, full Rohm copper scabbard and eagle. Does anyone know of such a rare dagger? Did early SA daggers have copper scabbards? Any information would be appreciated.

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I am sorry I have no picture, full Rohm copper scabbard and eagle. Does anyone know of such a rare dagger? Did early SA daggers have copper scabbards? Any information would be appreciated.

Thank you.

Max

It's hard to talk about something without a photo. Different materials were used in different periods. Copper including. But the material cannot be a factor that confirms originality. If all is well with the item, it only gives you confidence that it is a prefabricated item.


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Hi Den70,

Granted, I understand. Were any SA Daggers with copper scabbards, with full Rohm , ever made, and illustrated in any Dagger books. Thank you.


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Max,

No, there are no dagger books that illustrate these, but they do exist and there are also faked.

Check your email.

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Thank you.


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I don't recall if we had any contact via email? I had one back in 1974 and it was 100% and know more about others.
email me, [email protected]. Max

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If all is well with the item, it only gives you confidence that it is a prefabricated item.

Sorry, but this makes no sense at all. Following this line of logic there could NEVER be a genuine item.

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So yes, there were copper based scabbards used on SA Christmas daggers and prototypes. I will attempt to attach some images. The fakes are pretty easy to spot if you know what to look for. I think that these were also spoken to in Billy's excellent reference. The First of the Best. The First of the Best

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Thanks, Paul,

I always thought that the copper scabbards were tried as a cost saving option by Eickhorn. The copper was supposed to tone to a mid brown color as you can see above. The would have avoided the rust-browning (which we call anodizing) and spraying the result with a lacquer coating. The color part worked, but the copper proved much too soft. EP&S did not experiment with the material of the scabbard body.

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Outstanding dagger Paul, thanks for posting and for clarifying regards, Ryan

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Agree Dave they are too soft for normal wear.

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On the bright side, easier to repair.
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SUPER dagger, Paul!

Thanks for showing!

The scabbard on mine did not suffer too much... just one ding on the reverse.

Herman

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Yes, Thanks, Paul.

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