Translate German to English - Click here to open Altavista's Babel Fish Translator Click here to learn about all those symbols by people's names.

leftlogo.jpg (20709 bytes)

Upgrade to Premium Membership

Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 514
Likes: 7
R
OP Offline
R
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 514
Likes: 7
Hello,

here's my first addition of the year...from a Vet source....enjoy.

Ric

Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 514
Likes: 7
R
OP Offline
R
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 514
Likes: 7
....and here's Vet haul.......my ring come from

Ric

Vetfind.jpg (93.68 KB, 178 downloads)
Last edited by Ric Ferrari; 01/17/2023 02:09 PM.
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 14,783
Likes: 51
Offline
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 14,783
Likes: 51
Show us the rest, Ric !

Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 514
Likes: 7
R
OP Offline
R
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 514
Likes: 7

Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 1,387
Likes: 37
Offline
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 1,387
Likes: 37
congratulation, original rin and IMO rare

Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 514
Likes: 7
R
OP Offline
R
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 514
Likes: 7
Thank you......Evgeniy.

I was looking for such pattern since a while and......finally got it.

Ric

Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 11,620
Likes: 183
G
Offline
G
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 11,620
Likes: 183
yeah thats a rare one... They are all over the place, but all fake!! . This one looks good.. and what a nice haul with it!!,

Good catch Ric,,Congrats!!

Hey!!, just saw what looks like another ring.. What is it??

Last edited by Gaspare; 01/18/2023 01:45 AM.
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 514
Likes: 7
R
OP Offline
R
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 514
Likes: 7
Originally Posted by Gaspare
......Hey!!, just saw what looks like another ring.. What is it??

Ahahahahaha.......sharp eyes, my friend....but I was ready to your question

Ric

Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 514
Likes: 7
R
OP Offline
R
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 514
Likes: 7
A well known "memento mori" pattern.......with silver plating left in recess only.

Ric

Vetfind2.JPG (54.61 KB, 135 downloads)
Last edited by Ric Ferrari; 01/18/2023 11:00 AM.
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 514
Likes: 7
R
OP Offline
R
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 514
Likes: 7
....and here's mine.

Ric

SkullRingMementoMoribyRic.JPG (54.19 KB, 129 downloads)
Last edited by Ric Ferrari; 01/18/2023 11:15 AM.
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 1,721
Likes: 35
B
Offline
B
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 1,721
Likes: 35
Yes, your panzerring is rare and a beauty ! TOP smile

The momento mori with silver plating left in recess only.....I recognized it..I have the same one.
I can't find the pics , but could make new.....

Nice to see your momento mori ring completely silvered...I've never seen before.

Last edited by benten; 01/18/2023 03:19 PM.
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 1,721
Likes: 35
B
Offline
B
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 1,721
Likes: 35
I found my old pics of the skullring.

WEB (1).jpg (32.22 KB, 146 downloads)
WEB (2).jpg (36.87 KB, 146 downloads)
WEB (3).jpg (33.56 KB, 145 downloads)
WEB (4).jpg (33.7 KB, 146 downloads)
1 member likes this: SpitfireVb
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 11,620
Likes: 183
G
Offline
G
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 11,620
Likes: 183
yes a very old pattern.. A MM ring will always have at least one or combo of:

- A skull,, a hour glass,, a scythe,, stars,, a half moon,, a sword,, and occasionally a crucifix.,,a swastika regular or reversed ..

Benten,,,what are those marks your showing us? some type hallmarks.....

- And Ric,,,is the content mark on your Pz skull ring behind the skull in a square??

Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 514
Likes: 7
R
OP Offline
R
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 514
Likes: 7
Originally Posted by Gaspare
.......And Ric,,,is the content mark on your Pz skull ring behind the skull in a square??


Of course, G........content mark is there...as expected.

Ric

Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 1,721
Likes: 35
B
Offline
B
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 1,721
Likes: 35
Originally Posted by Gaspare
yes a very old pattern.. A MM ring will always have at least one or combo of:

- A skull,, a hour glass,, a scythe,, stars,, a half moon,, a sword,, and occasionally a crucifix.,,a swastika regular or reversed ..

Benten,,,what are those marks your showing us? some type hallmarks.....

- And Ric,,,is the content mark on your Pz skull ring behind the skull in a square??


The squares:

I don't know Gaspare. There are very small differences in high; the left inside square is in incuse, deep, the right inside quare is a bit higher, the square on the rear is "highest" . Very small differences. Maybe they are also symbolic, just like the other symbols on the ring.

Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 11,620
Likes: 183
G
Offline
G
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 11,620
Likes: 183
Ric .,, there it is!! , just crossing the Ts and dotting the i . grin There are some that will insist that there be cross-hatching inside the eyes,,also cross-hatching in between and around the band designs.. What most don't realize is that everyone copied each other,,especially if its a popular ring!. I have even seen them with eyes/ nose cut out and be authentic. Small inconsistencies are fine as long as the main criteria is there[which I won't mention].. Ric your looks fine and wouldn't mind having it myself..
In the early days you sell things thinking 'there are more where those came from'! , Sadly there isn't frown

Benten , Ric,, your MM rings are both nice examples. Even worn you can see it had at one time really good details. And yes,,the flash plating like some other rings came off after a few times of wear..

Benten, maybe the mark are a kind of 'witness' mark or alignment marks..Are they solid or something / a design inside each mark? , Ric,,does yours have the same marks in same places?

Last edited by Gaspare; 01/20/2023 09:31 PM.
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 11,620
Likes: 183
G
Offline
G
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 11,620
Likes: 183
We should probably have 2 separate topics,,the Pz ring and the MM ring. But for now this will do fine...
So no one has a problem with the Pz ring and thats great..

The MM skull ring many won't touch. Many thinking they are postwar. But the pattern has been around a long time and I'm sure there have been German soldiers dug up wearing the ring.. No reason to reproduce them as there were many made throughout the years..


-- Here's a old advert showing the ring and close up.

MM.jpg (92.66 KB, 114 downloads)
MM2.jpg (78.11 KB, 115 downloads)
Last edited by Gaspare; 01/20/2023 09:58 PM.
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 2,928
Likes: 29
M
Offline
M
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 2,928
Likes: 29
Nice haul Ric!

Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 1,721
Likes: 35
B
Offline
B
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 1,721
Likes: 35
Yes, Ric, I like the patina on your Panzer skullring !!

Gaspare, I've made some new pics, perhaps they can give a better sight on the squares.

WEB 1 (1)WEB.jpg (34.99 KB, 78 downloads)
WEB 1 (2)WEB.jpg (37.04 KB, 78 downloads)
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 514
Likes: 7
R
OP Offline
R
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 514
Likes: 7
Thank you all, glad you appreciate it as I do

Btw, are all Panzer rings with hollow skull like mine ?

Ric

Joined: Jul 2022
Posts: 43
Likes: 4
F
Offline
F
Joined: Jul 2022
Posts: 43
Likes: 4
Good patterns smile
IMO memento mori is a French ring, not German
Have both

Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 1,721
Likes: 35
B
Offline
B
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 1,721
Likes: 35
Nice rings F.

Could you take a pic of the sides, back and inside the Momento ring?

Benten.

Joined: Jul 2022
Posts: 43
Likes: 4
F
Offline
F
Joined: Jul 2022
Posts: 43
Likes: 4
Photos

Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 1,721
Likes: 35
B
Offline
B
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 1,721
Likes: 35
I see you ring has also a square inside.

Thank you for the extra pictures.

Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 11,620
Likes: 183
G
Offline
G
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 11,620
Likes: 183
some kind of alignment marks is my best guess.. Both nice!


Link Copied to Clipboard
Popular Topics(Views)
2,228,804 SS Bayonets
1,729,075 Teno Insignia Set
1,091,272 westwall rings
Latest New Threads
SS Skull & Eagle, the Bad and the ugly.
by C. Wetzel-20609 - 02/03/2023 10:05 PM
ring of Hans Rattenhuber
by Evgeniy - 02/03/2023 06:02 PM
Winged Propeller Badge
by Hermanator - 02/01/2023 10:33 PM
SS Foreign Legion
by Hermanator - 01/31/2023 10:31 PM
Over the shoulder Eickhorn Army dagger
by Dion - 01/30/2023 07:26 PM
Latest New Posts
ring of Hans Rattenhuber
by Evgeniy - 02/04/2023 10:54 AM
SS Skull & Eagle, the Bad and the ugly.
by C. Wetzel-20609 - 02/03/2023 11:21 PM
R.A.Herder sword variants
by BretVanSant - 02/03/2023 08:58 PM
Very rare medal just 1,708 awarded
by Billy G. - 02/03/2023 05:55 PM
Kuno Ritter Nicker
by C. Wetzel-20609 - 02/03/2023 04:07 PM
Forum Statistics
Forums42
Topics31,388
Posts325,230
Members7,289
Most Online5,900
Dec 19th, 2019
Who's Online Now
7 members (Don Scowen, lmrobil, Jim W, Alex ., col, DBaker, Nietzsche), 66 guests, and 118 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod

Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5