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Puma MM

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Should there ba a King Boris emblem on this one as well?

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Finally - those round marks on the "engine" in the srossguard (see make mark picture) and the same on the state emblem below...

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What are they?? Is this a WWII made dagger in your oppinion?

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There are current reproductions of these and the pricing of originals is very difficult. Much of your photos do not show so I can not see the blade clearly. I do note you are missing the ruby eyes.

Perhaps our other members are more up on these models.

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Somethin is wrong with the way the pictures are displayed - you are wright. Will fix that in a sec.

Are you certain those are modern repros?

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Pictures are fine now. Also a closeup of the EYEs. What do you think Guys?

Anyone v seen Puma MM or the KB mark on the blade so far?

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There is another Pilots dagger on ebay - Eichhorn made Officer this time with a $6,5K buy it now.
The seller states:
"The bronze parts are all hand engraved and covered with 24kt goldplate! In the eyes of the eagle head are mounted rubys.This amazing dagger comes from the estate of the Bulgarian pilot capitan Jordan Ivanov.It is in excellent condition! On the bottom of the dagger is mounted blue enamelled ball,simbolized the planeth Earth holded by the eagle. On the handle side is apllied the Bulgarian coat of arms with the rised lion.

ALL OTHER 19 DAGGERS ARE KNOWN TO BE IN PRIVATE COLLECTIONS AND MUSEUMS WORLDWIDE,SO THIS IS THE ONLY ONE PIECE THAT WILL BE EVER AVAILABLE FOR SALE!!!

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What do you make of that?

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The etch on the Eickhorn's logo doesn't looks good IMO, regards.

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The etch is correct for this dagger. Of interest is that there are only 20 of these. I guess I have one of the 20. Mine has the original deluxe silk hangers.

To my knowledge the maximum this deluxe original trades for with hangers would be about $2,000.

Just my opinion

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Hi
First NCO dagger is modern reproduction. Original blade is plane without masters mark and king Boris III monogram.
I have seen only Eickhorn and Horster blades never Puma blade.
The second one looks original.

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My humble collection grows. Latest addition Carl Eickhorn in perfect condition and with extremely rare leather hangers.

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You are to corner the market on these?

A beautiful display.

are the two Eickhorn marks identical?

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The Eickhorn TM pictured is what I call a triple oval. It is a doubled outer oval line along with the inner oval. This TM is pictured in Carter's book and is described as a mark used on export bayonets by Carl Eickhorn.

I have found this mark as well on a KS98 bayonet. To date, I have seen this on two long KS98s, both of which I owned at one time. Here are pics of the one I still have in my collection. I assume tht this 'export' TM was used in error when these bayonets were stamped.

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Always looking for Eickhorns and etched bayonets.
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Originally Posted By: Jim W
You are to corner the market on these?

A beautiful display.

are the two Eickhorn marks identical?


yes, the masters marks are exactly the same, but the lower bladeís mark is not cleaned and has slight surface rust

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Thanks John and Pesho.

I suspect all original by Eickhorn were made in one batch and the marks should be the same.

John, thank you for the close ups. My inquiry was to verify that his obvious original daggers do in fact have the same stamp. There are reproductions with a similar mark but clearly different.

The mark on mine is also identical to these.

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Although using the latest technology the fakers are getting better and better, they still have to learn a lot in order to reach the classical style and quality of old school.
One who has had the opportunity to see the original dagger, can not be fooled yet, thank God.

The latest faker's creation appeared the market before couple of months ago.

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Yah, that's the one.

thank you Pesho.

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The new addition.Unfortunately one of the hangerís clip is broken.
Mr. Predov describes it as non commissioned officerís dagger.
No manufacturer, but apparently local production because it is a little rough workmanship comparing it with the Solingen production. On some places still evident gilding

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I bought one as well. Its interesting dagger for sure. Sadly photos are larger than 300kb and I have no time to reduce it. I will do it later.
I listed it here though https://www.ebay.com/itm/334494640913

Also I saved partial picture of some bulgarian book with this dagger. It might help to someone.

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Nice original with rare original hangers.

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