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Just asking to expert if this dagger is original:

Some parts are authentic, some are not. We'd need more pictures to be certain, but this is what I see:

Blade: Probably bad. The trademark is too far off the crossguard and does not look correct.

Grip: Not Eickhorn early production.

Guards: Not Eickhorn early production. Maybe later EP&S

Tang nut: Probably fake, Maybe early EP&S

Scabbard: Real, but a Later RZM scabbard reworked with an unlikely 'motorcycle' finish

Hanger: Fake. Maybe clip anf buckle are real ?

Don't buy this ... or get a refund

Dave

I agree with Dave: this is a fabrication, the blade is not authentic and it represents 95 % of the value of such a dagger.

Herman

Thanks
What kind of pictures would you want to see ?

Hello, OWN,

I'd like to see a close up of the trademark and the tang nut, and some of the hanger.

Thanks,
Dave

Here I tried to get some
Regards

The hanger looks toooo good to be true. You just do not see that many natural leather hangers. Wish it was real.

First the trademark.

Eickhorn first used their large double oval trademark for the first few Rohm daggers, but quickly switched to the smaller double oval trademark closer to the guard.

The trademark on your dagger is too far from the guard to be the small mark and too small to be the large mark. And the squirrel looks strange.

The hanger is newly made though dated 1939. The clip is marked with the Assman trademark, but the shape and proportions are not correct.

The tang nut is a later RZM nut or a fake as the early nuts were a little more rounded.

Hi

The trademark was laser-etched and totally fantasy

Highlighted by red arrows

Rgds Andrew

The Rohm Dedication is a dead give away fake with a commonly seen sloppy looking script.

This is a nicely recreated postwar SA dagger with obvious details not produced during the period.
Right down to the button snaps on the hanger retainer loop.

Regards Larry

The maker mark is very poorly reproduced.

At the Ciney show a couple of weeks ago, a dagger with a blade like this was offered at 1500 EUR.