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#262851 04/06/2012 04:30 PM
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Woman's brooches were fashion in the 30 and 40 ties.

This brooch is a personal brass made brooch; made for a female NSB sympatisant ( Dutch National Socialistic Movement, collaboraters with the Nazis ).

In the middle a runic sign...
Text around is "LEVET SCONE" a Dutch medieval poem text, which were popular in wartime to show the "real" ("real", read NSB,Dutch nation sympatisants).
"LEVET SCONE" means: Live the good life...Enjoy the good/ beautifull of life.

On the back is used a period safty pin.I didn't clean it. smirk

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I really like that!

I have something similar,,, I'll try and find it and post..

*Does this look like a mass produced piece? Or a one of a kind custom made piece?

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Indeed very nice items and for sure worth to collect!

I have seen within the years some very similar brooches. Most had the emblem of a period organisation. Nearly all were brass and had a needle system backside. Sometimes i had the impression that they were industrial made and some had manufacturers notations on the backside too.

On this brooch here i think the needle was replaced one time, but still a cool looking one.

Congrats and thanks for showing here!

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�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder
aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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Gaspare, I looked again to the letters inside... they are handmade. I also see very tiny help lines.

Odal, I had the same idea....but, there is no sign to see that the pin has been replaced.

Thanks guys for your reply!

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G. if you find your brooch, I'd love to see it .

Here a brooch with Sig rune of the Jungvolk ?
Brass blackened and ca 5cm in diameter.

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benten #263062 04/09/2012 07:25 PM
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Again a nice one!


�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder
aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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found it!
1st thought it was a WHW item but they are usually marked so its probably not..

Only marking is on pin plate Ges Gesh.. A fairly common item..

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Odal thanks for your reply, always appreciated.

Gaspare, a nice brooch. This is the first brooch I see with this mark.
I like these German runic forms, the lines go on in eternity. It is magic.

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Here's that same " Ges. Gesch. " mark on yet another Heemkunst brooch ..

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Front ..

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Interessting.
Thanks for showing.
With the "ges. gesch." on it, it seems to be german made.


�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder
aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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The brooch will be mechanical made.
The rune shows hammer beats, also mechanical made I presume. Hammer beat effects were fashion in the 30ties (and forties??).

A very nice brooch.



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And thanks for showing your items .. !
I think it is just the pin-attachment that came from Germany - I have seen several different pins used for these brooches .
There's indeed a thin line with commercial fashion brooches from the period , that depict some more " neutral " decorations . But these rune-types are all O.K. in my book ..

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Speaking of books , these Dutch brooches will be discussed in the upcoming book on NSB-insignia by Gaston Vrolings . I've read a few finished concepts & contributed some pics of items myself .
It has been a long time in the making , but it will definitely be worthwhile .. !

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thanks to the ever vigilance of member John P. !!

Something wonderful!


http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/showthread.php?t=609416



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That show you are german brooche.
Dutch brooche ca 4 cm in diameter.



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Welcome Jan!

Very, very interesting! Thanks much for showing to us!


�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder
aus ihren Augen blitzen."
odal #310672 08/28/2015 03:16 AM
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are these still for sale? or any other similar runic brooches?

http://www.stiwotforum.nl/viewtopic.php?...&view=print


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maybe interesting for you.....a page of a 1921 catalogue

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�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder
aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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wow, very nice Odal! thank you!

I have a whole katalog of brooches if you are interested, but this page is new to me. It may be the exact same company.

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This is the sunwheel brooch I am looking for....should anyone have one, please contact me!

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don't own this but saw in the auctions a while ago and still have the photos.. nice piece..

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Yes, I'm also looking for those pieces Gaspare. Made by Christian Deininger, so marked C.D.


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Originally Posted By: lore vergessen
Yes, I'm also looking for those pieces Gaspare. Made by Christian Deininger, so marked C.D.


Very good knowledge! wink


�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder
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Lore, do you have any information on this sunwheel brooch ?
I have exactly the same one in my collection.

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Ado, can you show some pics of yours? I have some info on it. It is a civilian brooch not a military one. Would you sell or trade?


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WOW this is SO cool?!

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Here is mine...it is marked for 900 silver and has a maker mark "arrow" like Tyr rune.
Do you have any knowledge who is the jeweler with the tyr rune maker mark?

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Ado, sent you a PM
thanks


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Hi Lore, it would be nice if you can post the image from the catalogue you have where it shows this particular brooch in advertisement

P.S. PM sent


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�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder
aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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Nothing spectacular, not even silver (only silvered) but worn by a close relative as a young maiden during the period.
Regards,

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Originally Posted By: wotan
Nothing spectacular, not even silver (only silvered) but worn by a close relative as a young maiden during the period.
Regards,
I personally think this is RATHER special, in my mind. Of course you would never consider selling it?
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Mark4321, thank you for your kind words. Yes, for me it is something special. And you are also right that I will not consider selling due to the mentioned personal fact.
But additionally I can show the reverse.
Regards.

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I've had this for years and didn't find out what it was until last year, Dutch NSB brooch.
Much cleaner than the picture shows and dark blue enamel.

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Great old topic!

Jerry A company in the 80s were making those [USM I think]. . Don't know if a firm actually made them during the period, then it would be a reproduction or, if not a fantasy.

- We have a couple members who collect Dutch maybe they'll pass by and confirm or not..

The RZM is : M5/82 Steinhauer & Luck, Ludenscheid who made just about everything.. Just don't thick a pin like that would have a RZM...

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Thanks for the input, you could be correct. I took a few pictures from a book in a serious collectors' library last year, I'll need to see who the author was and when it was printed. Attaching a few pics.

Thanks again Gaspare! Jerry

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Yes, the print date as I'm sure on the 80s thing... - So yours is enameled? - - 86 described as 'stamped' 'dark blue colored metal', Stamped from a die? then blued?...

This is a tough one.. You gotta find a Tinne collector and/or a Foreign Volunteer collector...

Its got a nice look,,,but the RZM kills it for me.. Lets see maybe someone will see this and know something... Nothing wrong with holding on to that for now.. These small and especially foreign pieces can be extremely tough to authenticate 100% sometimes.........

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Made a change here. ,, - topic Dutch and now German brooches..


Some pre war German pieces from my files...........

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heres another I found while cleaning my photos..[sorry no reverse]

Reminiscent of the 3rd reich era Wound WestWall spiral ring... Could be much earlier too as I've seen the design on 1920s and older pieces also

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