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#354140 03/24/2022 03:31 PM
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Good morning all I hope all is well with you all.
I picked up an EK 2 M.M. 137 on the ribbon ring. J.H. Werner?
The packet that came with the medal was marked,
It was hard to read but here goes, Gottlieb Ko either H or II Gobel. Obersin Ahe ??
Any and all info. welcome,Thanks again Dutchman. cool


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Gottlieb Roll und Söhne Oberstein a. Nahe ?


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Hello derjager,I don't see the makers number on the the EK2 list? Thanks Dutchman.


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Dutchman #354177 03/27/2022 08:37 PM
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Dutchman,

From reading, the maker-marked packets are known. No EKII has been attributed to this maker.
The 137 marked cross and the packet could be a mismatched pair. (?).
Do you have pictures?


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Dutchman #354181 03/27/2022 08:51 PM
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"137" was assigned to J.H. Werner, Berlin. Gottlieb & Wagner, Idar-Oberstein was assigned number "52".

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Pix to follow.Thanks again Dutchman.


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Dutchman #354467 04/26/2022 08:47 PM
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Dutchman, did you ever get a satisfactory answer?

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derjager #354475 04/28/2022 10:14 PM
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Hi --dj--Joe,I'll have to post the pix.Dutchman.


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I do have another one I just pick up.It's hard to read.I'll send the pix of that one also.Dutchman.


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Pix of the newest one.

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I think this is the information on the packet.
Carl Knoblauch, Seidenbandfabrik, Berlin C 2, Post str. 23

Have observed one blue packet for the EKII ribbon from this manufacturer. packet was marked on the flap.


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OK,Do you think mine is original or post war? Thanks again Dutchman.


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Dutchman #354492 04/30/2022 10:45 PM
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Is the makers number #107? Thanks again Dutchman.


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Number "107" was assigned to Carl Wild, Hamburg.


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I can not reply on originality. I only have a small number of packets/envelopes. I have not enough research material on the subject.

Note - Seidenbandfabrik = Silk Ribbon Factory. Any numbered/marked award could be placed in a packet/envelope at some point in time.

Vern, how about a reference section on maker-marked paper packets/envelopes for medals and badges?

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We have a gallery for LDO and Lieferant Codes. If they were officially registered, we have them wink I wonder if these are small operations that bought medals they didn't make from the registered makers and repackaged them for sale.


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From research, Gottlieb Roll und Söhne Oberstein a. Nahe, marked packets are known. No EKII has been attributed to this maker, (manufacturer or distributor)?

Carl Knoblauch, Seidenbandfabrik, Berlin C 2, Post str. 23 was apparently a silk ribbon manufacturer. EKII ribbons? Packets with just the band/ribbon are known. Usually marked as such = (Band des).

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Dutchman #354504 05/02/2022 12:26 AM
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This venerable old thread has a number of packet/envelopes and matching awards . For reference. Winterschlacht Im Osten 1941/42.
https://forum.germandaggers.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=145029#Post145029


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OK,So the EK2 #137 that came with the packet could have came as a set! Medal, Ribbon,Tissue paper and packet. Great.It came from a Vet's family member.Validating there story. cool

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Have this set, EK is very dusty and nicotine stained but minty

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For sale ?


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Dutchman #354608 05/10/2022 09:03 PM
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Skynyrd,

Is the ring on the EKII marked 123?

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