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don't know Mike,,maybe just a piece of paper from wrapping and putting it away. I'd leave it be... Seldom seen pattern Congrats!

I mean look at just this page alone at the WW rings shown,,some real nice ones. AND 2 new members SpitfireVb and Edward Gary,,,welcome,,,and hope to see some more of your collections..

We seemed to lose a bunch of pages,,I thought we had in the 70s! confused! but now shows 48....So there's still plenty of back pages to see so make sure you change at bottom to see all.. More important,,IF you see a photo or info inportant to you cut and past,save photo in case more dissapear in the nite crazy grin

OK, Summer's a bit slow but happy hunting and be careful out there!!...,G.

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Originally Posted by Gaspare
...I mean look at just this page alone at the WW rings shown,,some real nice ones. AND 2 new members SpitfireVb and Edward Gary,,,welcome,,,and hope to see some more of your collections..


Thank you, Gaspare, for the welcome. I keep meaning to post pictures from my collection of approx. 100 ring. Never seem to get around to it but I have been enjoying and learning from the discussions.

I have been an active member of the TR Ring Forum on WRF for a few years, but it seems to be suffering since the sad loss of Odal and Wagriff. I had a quite a bit of private correspondence with those guys. Real gentlemen, both of them, with astonishing knowledge.

The expertise on TR rings here is impressive. I dont own an Ehrenring (probably never will as theyre not cheap and heavily faked) but the recent thread here about whether or not they were cast was amazing. Highly educational.

Cheers,
Stephen

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this was the first,,,,over 20 years ago,,,,,called:
'The Don Boyle Honor Ring forum'

Topics mainly about the HR. But then they got VERY expensive... Don had to go and I'm a Private Purchase guy so it took a bit of a directional change.. Please, post anything you want,,cufflinks, pins etc. There's a topic pinned at the top about what to post..
Please just one or 2 at a time. keep them related,,skull with skull,,,westWall with WestWall. OR really, best to do one at a time.. Read that post has photo ideas also I believe.., Thanks , G.

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hey Spitfire!! come on get one / some of your rings up here! Don't have to be WestWall,,anything is fine as long as its old from the period 1920s to 45...
Even a postwar ring ,,if its interesting manufacture method, or,,,military from another war,,all good so post away..


Here;s a ring I'm sure is already on here.. It is a WestFront ring.. A nice looking pattern. This one appears in fine condition. even the box looks period..

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What a wonderful conserved Westfront-Ring, Gaspare.

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Originally Posted by Gaspare
hey Spitfire!! come on get one / some of your rings up here! Don't have to be WestWall,,anything is fine as long as its old from the period 1920s to 45...
Even a postwar ring ,,if its interesting manufacture method, or,,,military from another war,,all good so post away..


Here;s a ring I'm sure is already on here.. It is a WestFront ring.. A nice looking pattern. This one appears in fine condition. even the box looks period..



I will, I promise Gaspare. Just not had much time of late. Love your West Front ring, box and all. It is a beauty. How about I post pictures only of WW rings on this thread, and other types on separate threads? Cheers!

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Exactly!! WestWall and WestFront items here all else on their own...

Please feel free when ever you get the time to post..... Hot, hazy humid slow days of summer and all the forums are a bit slow ,,so whenever your ready...
Thanks , G.

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Here is one I found in my box just recently, I forgot I had it!

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'Forgot you had it',,,man your getting as bad as I am.. Your way too young bro! grin wink

Now,,it looks like a casting dot on top of the E in WEST.. But I don't think it is. could be debris, or from the die itself or even part of the design...

The ring does look pressed. The silver wash looks good as its usually gone and nothing there to study. The band nice and thin and even?

Mike a bit of advice.. These angles your taking your photos at. The are hindering opinions, study... Best is to put in on a piece white copy paper and take nice straight shots. Same with th side,,just turn the ring to side and shoot. A birds eye view is usually important, Seam, inner band finish, hallmarks. Simple is always better...

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Yep thin even band, the dot looks like a spot of dirt to me, just looks like a dot at one angle but an impression on the other, I?ll clean it off tomorrow but not too much! Yes good bit of silverwash still there, but it has worn off a bit but not too bad !

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Hi folks,

Here's a big chunky West Wall skull ring. Hope you like it. The silver mark is 835.

Cheers,

Stephen

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Another West Wall design you have seen before. It is a bit scruffy but I like it a lot. I think that it is made of brass or similar alloy but you can see what's left of the silver wash.

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Spectacular!!!! That is a 'BigHead WestWall type 2!!! Haven't seen one in a looonngg time.. That one has some good wear to it and is a good original..

Your other WW is also a really nice pattern , seldom see much anymore.. Can you see the rivet in the inner band??

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Originally Posted by Gaspare
Spectacular!!!! That is a 'BigHead WestWall type 2!!! Haven't seen one in a looonngg time.. That one has some good wear to it and is a good original..

Your other WW is also a really nice pattern , seldom see much anymore.. Can you see the rivet in the inner band??


Thanks Gaspare. Yes indeed, there is a rivet that presumably was used to attach the helmet motif.

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Love the bighead! Let me know if that ever needs a new home.. Nice pieces! Congrats man

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Originally Posted by Mike (aka Byzanti)
Love the bighead! Let me know if that ever needs a new home.. Nice pieces! Congrats man


Thanks Mike. I will let you know... It is a big monster for sure! The skull is almost 0.7 inches in height.

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,,,, VERY nice!. , Yes there are only a couple other rings that have a rivet like that.. Here is the famous 'Rivet Skull' that also has one.

Now your WestWall will also be seen without the rivet. It's still really there you just can't see it.

Your BigHead IS a big hunk of silver for sure. There rare also seldom seen... Yours has the stamped in hallmark they all have, and nice sizing seam,,,yours is a nice example....

- very nice rings ,,thanks for sharing them here on this topic for us all to see and study.... ,thanks again,,,Gaspare

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Originally Posted by Gaspare
,,,, VERY nice!. , Yes there are only a couple other rings that have a rivet like that.. Here is the famous 'Rivet Skull' that also has one.

Now your WestWall will also be seen without the rivet. It's still really there you just can't see it.

Your BigHead IS a big hunk of silver for sure. There rare also seldom seen... Yours has the stamped in hallmark they all have, and nice sizing seam,,,yours is a nice example....

- very nice rings ,,thanks for sharing them here on this topic for us all to see and study.... ,thanks again,,,Gaspare


I am glad you like them, thank you. I have a skull ring similar to the one you posted, Gaspare. Mine does not seem to have a rivet though. A big, ugly brute!

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Sounds like my kind of guy, Stephen... we love the skulls!! A collecting focus of mine!

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Probably NOT Westwall ring or ... ?

The original Westwall- wire rings we know are much more elegant. The wire ring is one piece !


This one isn't ; the band is soldered to the ring. It is a kind of heavy alloy metal (German: potmetall).

I like to find out more about it .

benten



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First one I have ever seen- interesting thing for sure

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Yes Mike , for me also a question . The ring is well soldered and adjustable .


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Hau Ruck Der Westwall Steht? means free translated : ? Stand Back The Westwall Stands?.

This slogan are the words:
-on this ring and also in a song of the Westwall workers
-in a pocket-book from 1939 , title: ?Hau Ruck Der Westwall Steht : A foreman writes a cranky book about the men with spade and chop ?. A bit humoristic book .

I think the ring is made of a kind of alumimium and has a seam.
There was a black paint/enamel between the letters , still present partly.

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Benten,
,,,that Hau-Ruck ring is a beauty! Aluminum was a premium material thru out the war,,,Maybe a zinc or a pot metal if really light. .. details real nice and deep..



This might be already posted here ,, Member Gerd author of this great work informs me that a new updated edition is in the works and he'll let us know when done....

He is the current magnificent works on the West Wall ring , enjoy:

http://gerdhagedorn.de/resources/MS+GH+Der+Westwallring+$28Web+2$29.pdf

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[don't know why links don't work here]

Wow! as of 1-10-20 we have over One Million views here of this topic.. smile

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Thanks Gaspare. This ring will be rare .

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Regarding the inscription of the "Hau-Ruck" ring I found in some bigger dictionary the English translation: "Heave-ho" for the interjection "Hau-ruck". This interjection is used here in a figurative sense.

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Gaspare asked me to add this to the database. WW ring with a Luftwaffe unit/squadron insignia. Period made. Research led to this as a close design derivative.

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Mike,
quite interesting item, never seen this ring before. Most probably coming from the LVZ WEST, East from the Westwall. Other ideas?
Gerd

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Originally Posted by gerdhagedorn
Mike,
quite interesting item, never seen this ring before. Most probably coming from the LVZ WEST, East from the Westwall. Other ideas?
Gerd

It did come in a pair with this ring as well. Looks like an on ne pass pas badge- maginot pillbox.

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I like both of them. The WW spiral more than likely made within the unit [?] or in the field somehow..


I wrote on another forum that a few years ago I tried to replicate the spiral WW ring with some wire.. Couldn't do it! So I tried with a softer wire and still not real good results.. But after playing around for a day or so I ended up with something very close to this.. yeah,,I like both!

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VERY NICE!


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Hello fellow collectors,

Sorry first of all for my bad English. I hope you understand everything.

I registered here to ask for your help.
I do not know if this ring is original and would like your opinion.

Many thanks and best regards, Richard

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First off, welcome to the forum, you will get all you need on rings here.
Second, your English is perfect, no problems there.
Austria is such a beautiful country, I always wanted to see it.
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Welcome to the forum. That looks like a very nice, authentic West Wall ring to me. The link below will take you to an excellent article on West Wall Rings. The author is a member of this forum. Your ring is the same pattern as shown with #29 on p.16 of the article.

http://gerdhagedorn.de/resources/MS+GH+Der+Westwallring+$28Web+2$29.pdf

Cheers,
Stephen

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Thank you for the nice welcome and the information about the ring.

That helps me.
Best regards,
Richard

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Welcome Richard,

Austria IS beautiful. I have visited several times, both the east and west.

Your ring turned out good which is always welcome. We would love to see other rings too !

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Originally Posted by Dave
Welcome Richard,

Austria IS beautiful. I have visited several times, both the east and west.

Your ring turned out good which is always welcome. We would love to see other rings too !

Dave
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Thanks Dave.
I am not really a ring collector. I only buy them if they happen to come my way. If I like them. I only have a couple of pieces.

Best regards, Richard

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Wolfhook14,, they all look like nice pieces.. Yes, get them when you can because they are getting fewer and fewer even to be seen.!

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