Translate German to English - Click here to open Altavista's Babel Fish Translator Click here to learn about all those symbols by people's names.

leftlogo.jpg (20709 bytes)

Upgrade to Premium Membership

Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
#352335 10/25/2021 08:57 PM
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 67
M
OP Offline
M
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 67
Looking for some opinions on this dagger. Original or post war fake? I'm including lots of pictures. Thanks in advance for all your feedback.

DSCN0110.JPG (37.2 KB, 326 downloads)
DSCN0111.JPG (36.49 KB, 326 downloads)
DSCN0112.JPG (41.72 KB, 326 downloads)
DSCN0113.JPG (50.86 KB, 326 downloads)
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 67
M
OP Offline
M
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 67
More pics

DSCN0114.JPG (58.37 KB, 325 downloads)
DSCN0115.JPG (54.56 KB, 325 downloads)
DSCN0116.JPG (20.77 KB, 325 downloads)
DSCN0117.JPG (54.74 KB, 325 downloads)
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 67
M
OP Offline
M
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 67
More

DSCN0118.JPG (38.69 KB, 327 downloads)
DSCN0119.JPG (55 KB, 325 downloads)
DSCN0120.JPG (52.24 KB, 325 downloads)
DSCN0121.JPG (23.68 KB, 325 downloads)
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 67
M
OP Offline
M
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 67
Few more.

DSCN0122.JPG (31.01 KB, 323 downloads)
DSCN0123.JPG (48.13 KB, 323 downloads)
DSCN0124.JPG (56.76 KB, 323 downloads)
DSCN0125.JPG (39.65 KB, 323 downloads)
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 15,094
Likes: 99
Online Content
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 15,094
Likes: 99
I hope Ron W can help out here.

Dave

Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 5,021
Likes: 31
Offline
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 5,021
Likes: 31
Hello Mauser88, unfortunately dagger and box are bad to the bone. Not even close to an original one. Sorry for the bad news,
regards,


wotan, gd.c-b#105

"Never look for sqare eggs" as a late owner of an original FHH-dagger used to say.
Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 5,130
Likes: 24
Offline
Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 5,130
Likes: 24
Aside from the obvious scabbard differences, I see several other differences from an original Horster. Some type of nouveau superfake?


GDC Gold Badge #290
GDC Silver Badge #310
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 67
M
OP Offline
M
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 67
Originally Posted by Billy G.
Aside from the obvious scabbard differences, I see several other differences from an original Horster. Some type of nouveau superfake?

No idea. Can you please be more specific on exactly what you don't like?

Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 5,130
Likes: 24
Offline
Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 5,130
Likes: 24
Two things that jump out are the thickness of the crossguard and leather buffer pad. As well as the details on the scabbard eagle. Compared to a period HJ Leader, there are more.


GDC Gold Badge #290
GDC Silver Badge #310
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 67
M
OP Offline
M
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 67
Originally Posted by Billy G.
Two things that jump out are the thickness of the crossguard and leather buffer pad. As well as the details on the scabbard eagle. Compared to a period HJ Leader, there are more.

Thanks, that's very helpful.

Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 5,021
Likes: 31
Offline
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 5,021
Likes: 31
Originally Posted by Billy G.
Some type of nouveau superfake?
Hello Billy G, I do know this fake since years. Beside the outer form there is no detail equal to an original HJleader dagger and the scabbard is even more a phantasy product.
Regards,


wotan, gd.c-b#105

"Never look for sqare eggs" as a late owner of an original FHH-dagger used to say.
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 4,917
Likes: 5
Offline
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 4,917
Likes: 5
Not one I would want


MAX CHARTER MEMBER

LIFE MEMBER OVMS
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 4,917
Likes: 5
Offline
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 4,917
Likes: 5
These were considered bad many years ago and still are.


MAX CHARTER MEMBER

LIFE MEMBER OVMS
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 4,917
Likes: 5
Offline
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 4,917
Likes: 5
Well known old fake, including the case


MAX CHARTER MEMBER

LIFE MEMBER OVMS
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 4,917
Likes: 5
Offline
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 4,917
Likes: 5
Wotan hit the nail on the head, but want Dave to know I didn't miss his request just a little late. As I remember, these first appeared in the late 1970s.


MAX CHARTER MEMBER

LIFE MEMBER OVMS
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 15,094
Likes: 99
Online Content
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 15,094
Likes: 99
Thanks Ron.

Your presence here is much appreciated.

Dave


Link Copied to Clipboard
Popular Topics(Views)
2,264,893 SS Bayonets
1,762,747 Teno Insignia Set
1,131,778 westwall rings
Latest New Threads
Postwar Military PCs.
by Gaspare - 04/26/2024 01:22 AM
Knife of the Dutch youth organization.
by Vik - 04/23/2024 02:22 PM
Fantastic Current Military Unit Ring
by Gaspare - 04/23/2024 02:00 AM
S-98 nA. Bayonet
by lakesidetrader - 04/22/2024 01:57 PM
Overslept a development???
by wotan - 04/15/2024 03:30 PM
Latest New Posts
Postwar Military PCs.
by Gaspare - 04/26/2024 01:22 AM
Mine service metal insignia.
by derjager - 04/26/2024 01:00 AM
Rings & Things for the MAX
by Gaspare - 04/26/2024 12:48 AM
Knife of the Dutch youth organization.
by Gaspare - 04/25/2024 11:00 PM
Forum Statistics
Forums42
Topics31,669
Posts329,063
Members7,519
Most Online5,900
Dec 19th, 2019
Who's Online Now
9 members (Dean Perdue, Dave, Gaspare, derjager, Eric26, Tanker, Luftbud, ed773, TRIPLE T), 728 guests, and 168 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod

Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5