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#352072 09/27/2021 08:01 PM
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i would really like to know the honest to goodness dollar value for this early model PPK? I have been told 800.00-1000.00. That seems low. Thank you in advance to you advanced more knowledgeable than I PPK collectors. Best!

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That is a Model PP, not a PPK. $800-1000 is probably about right in that condition. FYI, it was produced in 1938.


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Thanks Vern, Much appreciated.

Any others! Thanks

Mikee #352077 09/27/2021 10:48 PM
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Looks like someone took a wire brush or scuff pad to it. What a shame.
I have seen many with Nazi proofs in the $2000.00 range, without cleanup marks.
I still do not have one, on the long list.
Ed

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Thanks ed,
It sure does look like it was cleaned with a brush. How much do you think it's worth if you were to purchase it? Thanks Ed.

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A lot of things to consider on this firearm. Matching clips, matching holster, Nazi marked, not to mention condition.
The cleanup marks look faint, may be able to restore some of it.
You will not see a rig like this for sale at a show for under 1200-1500, most higher if all matching.
These PP's are a hot item. and always have been. PPK's are post war. The Vet eagle is a nice touch, original??
Hope this helps some.
If the price is right, I would put it in one of my safes, 2000-3000 for a real looker.
Ed

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Ed, PPKs were produced starting in 1931. Here are 2 of mine produced in 1939 wink

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Mikee #352090 09/29/2021 12:31 PM
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Those are nice, complete and awesome boxes with great labels.
I was always under the impression that the K was introduced for the USA imports of the PP.
It's a shame I did not get to walk around shows with a person of your knowledge level, I might have learned something.
Thanks for showing, and telling,
Ed

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Ed, the letters were added to the end of the serial number in 1938. They used a "P" for the Model PP and a "K" for the PPK Model. Slides are marked "Zella-Mehlis (Thur)" on the pre-1945 examples. Carl Walther fled Germany in 1945 ahead of the red army. In 1952, he licensed a factory in France, Manufacture de Machines du Haut-Rhin, to produce the PP, PPK, and later, the PPK/s under the "Manurhin" label. The French firm stopped producing the "P" serial in 1986. Fritz Walther, Carl's son, began assembling "P" series pistols at the "Ulm/Do" factory in 1953 from parts produced in France. By 1956, all parts were being produced in Germany.

The Walther PP and PPK/S models have also been produced by Interarms in Alexandria, Virginia, Smith & Wesson in Houlton, Maine, and, since 2018, PPK and PPK/S models have been produced in Fort Smith, Arkansas, at the factory of the US-based subsidiary Walther Arms, Inc.

Quality wise from a shooter's stand point, the pre-1943 models have the best fit and finish with the quality falling off between 1943 and 1945. The French examples are almost up to pre-war standards with the Ulm/Do models a close second. The Interarms models are OK but nothing special. With a few exceptions, quality of the Smith & Wesson and Fort Smith production is very disappointing.


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Thank you. A walking book of knowledge.
It does seem any produced after the early Interarms models were pretty rough at best.
A shop in Fort Collins Co has about 20 or so war models, I have drooled over them many times.
With the loss of the Colorado house and property, one is only a dream for me now, but?
Thanks
Ed

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Ed, you could still buy from Colorado. Just contact a local gun shop and ask for info on their procedure to transfer from out of state. Most gun shops will do it for around a $25 transfer fee (some will handle it for free). Pay for your choice, and provide shipping info for your local shop. They will handle it from there wink

Here is a photo of my Manurhin Model PP wink

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Yes I could.
I was referring to the cost of the very nice Nazi marked PPs, $2000 and up. But you never know.
The Manurhin and French ones are way more reasonably priced.
Vern, you seem to have some really nice things in your collection, congrats.
Ed

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OK. You may want to check Gun Broker, Guns America, and Guns International. They have several at a good price. I've picked up a few goodies over the years wink


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