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Sorry but the initials I see engraved in the ring are G M not W for Wilhelm
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Not sure which ring you're looking at but it isn't this one ! The ring does not show the first initial, and nor should it. It reads 'Slb Giebel 20.4.37 H Himmler'.
The only confusion earlier arose from the surname spelling, whether it was 'Siebel' as the previous vendor thought, or 'Giebel', and after research we are agreed it reads 'Giebel'. The deduction that this belonged to a Wilhelm Giebel was reached after searching the various DALs and establishing that Wilhelm Giebel had received an honor ring at this time
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great job Jonathan! 
In Memory of Joe Mann
Medal of Honor Recipient
July 8, 1922 �
September 19, 1944
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Jonathan, I think your right on target. When everything is right close like that ,the name, award date etc.,you have to go with reasoning..
Congrats! ,Good work....
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Thanks, the real credit goes to Raymond and John (Moore). Jonathan
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Hi Jonathan I was looking at your picture number 3 now you explain I can see its the angle that gave me my wrong interpretation
Very nice ring well done
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"GROH"
Note the style of the 'G'
(attributed to Craig Gottlieb sales)
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Thanks for posting this John
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Waiting for Vern to renew my premium membership, as soon as he does the 'Giebel' ring is off to the classifieds, complete with John P Moore's research - usd 5,800
Cheers
Jonathan
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Hi Johnathon hope the sale goes well, these rings are highly desirable.
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It seems odd to me that such a low ranking officer would receive a ring. Are there many other examples of junior officers receiving them?
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Yes many Unterstrumfuhrer's received rings. After all they were Officers!
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On an earlier posting I mentioned that when you see a real one and early ones especially they JUMP OUT AT YOU. There is no question on this one, the wear is just like mine and shiny as it should be.This ring if it pulls out that he is the only one with that name and has treue fame of that blood order and a badge holder that ring should be 10.000 dollars PLUS. Look at what craig asks for some of the rings he sells.This should be a superman ring in my opinion..tom
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For those wanting to see a nice 1st pattern HR here it is!!
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first page,,,page #1.. There is his 20 4 37. Jonathan posts photos
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