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THanks gentlemen for that fantastic thread to keep this sword department alive !
Mark's cat is a gem, one of a kind !!!!
Mr FABULOUS 's herder saber with that strange looking cat/bat head is the most singular heer sword i ever got the chance to put eyes on .... Hardly ever documented in books, probably one of the rarest if not the rarestof Heer saber models ....
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I am enjoying this thread big time!

Herman

Your killing me!!!!!!!

Love the ww1 swords! Engraved and everything!Jee what nice swords!

So gilding was better you say! Damascus! Thats always been out of my league!

Seeing so many beauties and types might make a fella want to collect swords!

I hope others might consider the richness of them!

I always thought becaues of shipping and space many do not collect swords!

Under priced I believe!


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More of Mr Fabulous swords

George always had a way finding unusual paterns and fine looking swords!

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Cav sword

His few he got from Bill Shea he had been looking for

And Wingen swords

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Detail on a sword

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These are details on swords when you can see up close!

Makes you want to find something

Any edge weapon can come alive when shown!

And moths don't eat edge weapons!!!!

I think taking the pics is fun!



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THanks for the pics !

I particulary love the following picture you posted :

That N°421 WMW waffen model is incredible too !!!! Could be like a Forestry sword model !!!! The few i encountered were aluminium only ... Is there a known brass version of it ? the 3rd on the left is another great WMW model .... brass version is available , not too easy to find but nothing compared to that N°421 model !!!

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Thank

George sure has the good taste to go after the nice stuff

George or Mr Fabulous has owned the swords and knows swords!

He has had so many I could not dream of finding!

Many of you that show or add to this thread are at the top of your game in quality and taste!

Hopfully I can keep learning!

I do not know the models and such but I like them!


Showing some for george!

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Very beautiful swords, you just posted, PVON!

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Some more from George!

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He thanks you

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Both were aluminum. Leopard head was gilted? over a copper flash. the dove head was an anodized finish.

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IMO, Herder made the most stylish hilt patterns.

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Mr Fabulous Holler

Wow is that a beauty

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more! Love it George Silver Voos

Gotta love the eyes!!!!

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I will get back showing later!

I have never seen some details before on some swords!

Being sword dumb on some types Mr Fabulous or others!

Who would buy them for wear? And why all the types made by makers,
is any reason for such details? Engraved blades,Damascus,etc

Any meaning on why they would choose design?

Lots of questions an learning never stops! Does it!

Best sword refrence book? Was it Angolias book or others since!

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And the silver swords! I remember way back dealers tried to link silver and SS together!

Whats the real story sword guru's!

And I remember Bob Wait buying up all the birthday swords!

Since his passing have any showed up or quickly sucked up by deep pockets!

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The Japanese also made some real nice, European style swords,in my opinion, here are a few:

Best regards,

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Wow!! You have a large military show right there at your place.
I have not seen one thing you have posted that was not just beautiful.
Thank for all
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I'll second that! Amazing!

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Thank you, Ed and Mikee, for your kind words!

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some beautiful swords guys,i love it.
Glad to see you posting again George

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That Holler is a killer sword, wow

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here are mine in new cabinet i just bought. All are made by EPack Very contagious

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Hello All

@Stingray > That cabient is almost as incredible as the swords !!!!! Fantastic !!!! looks like it waited its whole life for swords !!!!
Do you know what was its original purpose ???? Was it some kind of shop furniture for displaying items ? Umbrella shop or something ????

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Thanks Kurt
Those were store cabinets for cane , umbrella used from 1890s to 1920s

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Welcome to the party Stingray!

This thread keeps getting better!

Glad to see so many collected by folks!

Stingray

All EPack? In the case?


A really fine showing ! Thanks

Maybe some shots up close of some to view detail! Giving us a lookie!!!!!

Take your time but please share!

Tell us some details we would not know!

Engraved blades,or types? initials on any?


Look forward to the continued showing by all!


Thanks all!

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Stingray

I collected antiques and I spot some really nice cases! The leaded book case is nice!

I used to refinish many of the treasures of the past!

You have a good eye in those cases!

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Hi Paul
I will try to snap some pictures,but some of my swords i listed here before, and they disappeared when big update happened

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Thanks Stingray

Yes some files got lost!

George lost his pics so I am trying to look at past posts of his to capture some of his swords!

Try looking at your past posts and right click any that might be hanging around!

I look forward to seeing more!

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Ok
Here is one of my favorite Pack lion head design, with different guards

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Fantastic collection Stingray !!!
Is the 2nd from the left a Customs Epack ? Does it have green eyes ?
AS for me here is the only Epack i owned
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Very nice 👍👍

Yes,that customs has a green eyes together with SS

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A few nice ones from Ed Sunday!

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Outstanding lot as always smile Thanks PVON !
What would be the explanation of that N° 3 stamped on the blade ??? Do collectors here have other examples ?
And what about distributor marks !!!! Show yours !!!!
ere is one on my lightweight LUTZOW > K. NEGELE from TUBINGEN
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Nice Kurt

Green eyes? SS marking?


Ed always had minty stuff!


So whats the story sword guys on silver swords?


Thanks as alsways!

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Since your sword guy is missing! No loss! WAF can keep!

You have some good guys on swords! Many as a fact!

You should get 2 or more to help you in that section!

I wouldn't miss out if you could!


Just a thought!


We all could learn!

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Hi PVON ,

Couldn't tell for sure as litterature sometimes say the opposite ... The typical example is WKC lionhead N°1016 ... It is listed as a regular Heer model but also as a Customs saber model.
Some say Customs sabers had to be silvered and with green eyes ... some say it only depended on the model so in the end, a WKC 1016 with golden gilt & red eyes could be either heer or Customs ... Only the portepee made the difference ....
So in the end of the day we can not be sure ... Still a green eyed lion is a good looking piece and when i see one, i guess it could be either SS or Customs ...

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Sword guys!

While I have you posting!

Would the buyer pick out his sword? Emblem.add ons! Name engraved or service?


Are all the makers of swords going after buyers like car companies! Just trying to figure out how they picked out certain things for swords!

Is it cost?

I can't be the only one to ask or think after seeing so many types and options!

Dove ,lion head ,puma head,you get the point! Why the choices!

Sure seems as the army swords really run the gamit of options!


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Salesmen would travel to regiments with a catalog proposing makers models ... either with a plain blade or etched with a few patterns to choose from ... these patterns were the basic models with no customization at extra costs obvioulsy .. Then you could also order a special customized etching for a company or a special event ( birthday, presentation, etc ) at even more expensive ... I read that you could also choose the color of the lionhead's eyes with a few companies so that can add extra confusion about that Customs / Heer matter

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some beautiful and rare swords, especially that LUTZOW

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