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Hi all.Here is another SS ring.
The ring was awarded 30.6.34 and is named to SS-Obersturmbannfuhrer Walter Jurk. SS-Ausweis Nr. 44 795. NSDAP Mitgl. - Nr.29 792. Walter Jurk belonged to the old fighters of the NSDAP and suffred four stab wounds during street and hall fights. He was imprisoned a total 16 times for political reasons. He was one of SS-Oberst-Gruppenfuhrer Kurt Daluege's closest friends and proteges. Kurt Daluege was also Jurk at the wedding as witness. Walter Jurk and Kurt Daluege served together in Fuhrer Schutzkommando.
The ring is found 23.09.2006 POW camp Ejpovice Czech Republic.
SS-Obersturmbannfuhrer Walter Jurk ( DOB 29.4.1904 Cottbus, Died ..?.. )
From 1925 Jurk worked in Frontbann Nord, the Berlin section of the right-wing Weh organization Frontbann led by Paul Röhrbein . Here he got to know, among others, the later Berlin SA chief Karl Ernst and in particular Kurt Daluege , who became of decisive importance for his further career.
In autumn 1925 Jurk was arrested along with Röhrbein, Ernst, Daluege and around a dozen other members of the Frontbann in Berlin because of their activities against the Weimar Republic . A case against the men on suspicion of being a secret groupwas eventually discontinued. Right-wing newspapers used the events to portray the men who were banned from the front as victims of the “arbitrary justice” of the Weimar Republic. With regard to Jurk, the circumstances of his imprisonment were mischaracterized by falsely claiming that Jurk's brother, after Jurk could not be found by the police, had been detained in his place in order to threaten Jurk with the leverage of his brother to be released only after he, Jurk, is in custody and to force himself to present himself to the authorities. In fact, when Jurk could not be found during a house search, his brother had voluntarily accompanied the police to find out more about the reasons which is why his brother was wanted and had not been arrested at police headquarters. Like most of those arrested, Jurk was released within a few days. At the time, the press reported extensively on the events.
According to his own statements, Jurk was arrested sixteen times before 1933.
After the ban on the front had collapsed in 1926, Jurk joined the Sturmabteilung (SA), the street combat group of the NSDAP , which was set up in Berlin for the first time that year . On February 6, 1926, he became a member of the NSDAP itself for the first time ( membership number 29,792).
On March 1, 1931 Jurk changed from the SA to the Schutzstaffel (SS membership number 44,795), in which he made a career as a protégé of Daluege. From 1931 it belonged to the SS-Motorsturm z. b. V. at. After 1933 Jurk ran various SS engine units.
On June 30, 1934, Jurk was appointed as SS functionary by Heinrich Himmler as commissioner for the SA Upper Group East in Berlin, in order to oversee the reorganization of the structure, which resulted from the breakdown of the power of the SA by the SS in the In the course of the cleansing action known as the Röhm Putsch had become necessary.
From August 1, 1934 to September 1937, Jurk worked for the Berliner AG as head of personnel. In addition, he was made available to the 3rd SS engine standard from June 13, 1935, and from November 1, 1936 to July 1, 1937 as a consultant at the I SS engine upper section east. In September 1937 he became a full-time SS leader again. This was done by taking over the functions of the leader of SS-Motor-Standarte 3 and the inspector of the upper section east.
On July 1, 1937 Jurk was appointed force inspector SS section Spree (which he nominally remained until October 1942). On December 12, 1939, he was assigned to the motor vehicle inspection of the SS Upper Section Warthe . During the Second World War Jurk was initially a member of the Waffen-SS from 1939 to 1942 , with which he inter alia. was used in Finland. With effect from October 10, 1942, at Daluege's instigation, he was transferred to the police force with the rank of major and by Daluege, who had been Deputy Reich Protector of Bohemia and Moravia from that year (de facto governor of the occupied Czech territories), entrusted with the administration of the property confiscated by the German occupation administration from Jewish persons in the Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia ("Einsatzstab Major Jurk"). Since he enriched himself considerably in the course of this activity, he was taken into custody on April 2, 1944 by order of Police Court VIII in Prague. At the same time he was given leave of absence from the Schutzstaffel for the duration of the investigation.
Allgemeine - SS Promotion
01.03.1931 SS-Mann 01.11.1932 SS-Hauptscharfuhrer ( SS-Haupttruppfuhrer ) 12.06.1933 SS-Untersturmfuhrer ( SS-Sturmfuhrer ) 03.09.1933 SS-Obersturmfuhrer 09.05.1934 SS-Hauptsturmfuhrer 30.01.1936 SS-Sturmbannfuhrer 20.04.1938 SS-Obersturmbannfuhrer
Waffen - SS Promotion
01.03.1940 SS-Hauptsturmfuhrer der Waffen-SS ( Reservefuhrer ) 10.10.1942 SS-Sturmbannfuhrer der Waffen-SS ( Reservefuhrer )
Polizei Promotion
10.10.1942 Major der Schutzpolizei
Documented Awards
Ehrenwinkel fur Alte Kampfer Totenkopfring der SS ( Night of the Long Knives ) Ehrendegen des Reichsfuhrers-SS ( 20.04.1938 ) Julleuchter SA-Sportabzeichen in Bronze Kriegsverdienst Kreuz I. Klasse mit Schwertern
State of service
1934 - 3 SS-Motorstandarte 30.6.1934 - Commissioner for the SA Upper Group East in Berlin 1937 - Stab Oa Ost ( Ref. I Motu. K. L. Kraftfahrinspekteur beim Oberabschnitt Warthe 1939 - 1942 - Waffen SS ( 1942 - SS-Mountain-Division Nord , SS-Infantry Regiment 6 : le. Inf. Kol ) 1942 Einsatzstab II (Major Jurk) Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia
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Walter Jurk with a ring .....
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01.09.1943 Prague Castle, Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia, ( SS-Oberst-Gruppenfuhrer Kurt Daluege, Generalmajor der Polizei Heinz Reinefarth, Major der Schutzpolizei Walter Jurk, SS-OberGruppenfuhrer Karl Hermann Frank
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Walter Jurk documents......
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Walter Jurk and Kurt Daluege...........
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That is quite something. Congratulations and thanks for posting.
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so its a ground dug ring.. Has some weird inside scratches,,, maybe from clean up... anyway looks like it had a tough life!,,
A Totenkopf man! and some great history to go with it. Photos too, outstanding!!
Thanks for posting!.
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I am not talking about the ring, since there are really few things we can say about it, pictures are few and they show no details. Anyway you got indeed a great piece of history, with a huge documentation. Something hard to obtain. Congratulations.
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so its a ground dug ring.. Has some weird inside scratches,,, maybe from clean up... anyway looks like it had a tough life!,,
A Totenkopf man! and some great history to go with it. Photos too, outstanding!!
Thanks for posting!. It sure does. Noticed that the skull has what appears to be stress cracks. Really difficult to tell about all the marks form the pics though. Hopefully better pics to follow. Ron
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He sounds like a real Jerk! In all seriousness though, very amazing piece of history!
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...The ring .....
....there are traces of long-term use on the ring. There are dark spots on a number of places on the outside and inside, and there are surface cracks on the surface of the skull, probably caused by a large scuff. ( the ring could be, for example , in the pocket of a uniform thrown into a fire........ )
Here is another document ( personal report ) signet SS-Obergruppenfuhrer Dietrich
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Thankyou for posting , a few interesting details about the ring , can you post some more closeups in natural lighting ?
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....There was something else about the owner....
Walter Jurk ( ...Alter Kampfer... )
Freikorps : Battl. Freikorps Cottbus ( Z. F. Major Buchrucker )
Aufmarsche NSDAP : Weinmar 04.02.26, Nurnberg 20.05.27, Nurnberg 02.09.33
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I'm not sure about the ring.
Interesting personal document about Walter Jurk. A pleasure to read .....as far as i can read. Free translated some sentences : He was a big guy and had a very strong physique . His behaveour in and out the service, he was goodhearted . He had a big mouth, but he gave no offend. His alcohol- and nicotin use was moderate.
Thanks for posting!
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.... The last photo... Prague 1943
In the photo are :
SS-Standartenfuhrer SD E.Weinmann ( Fuhrer Sonderkommando 4a - Einsatzgruppe C, Fuhrer SD Prague - Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia 1943 )
SS-OberGruppenfuhrer K.H.Frank ( Fuhrer SS-Polizei / State minister Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia )
SS-Obersturmbannfuhrer und Major der Schutzpolizei W. Jurk ( Fuhrer Einsatzstab 2 Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia)
SS-Brigadefuhrer H. Reinefarth ( General inspector Waffen-SS Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia )
GeneralMajor Luftwaffe M. Ziervogel ( Stabs chef Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia )
SS-Oberfuhrer W. Bertsch ( Minister of economy Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia )
SS-ObersGruppenfuhrer K. Daluege ( Deputy Protector Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia )
SS-Gruppenfuhrer G. Keppler ( Fuhrer SS Div. Totenkopf / Das Reich )
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IMO from this shots , ring look like a copy Plz possible make a big shots of engraving
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IMO from this shots , ring look like a copy Plz possible make a big shots of engraving I agree , something not quite right about this ring
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Imho this ring can be assumed, what we can at least see from the pics to be an original one but unfortunately was "cleaned" in a VERY unprofessional way. In pic rsz_5f4edf7e-3411-4d17-879c-b57a33b9e55a.jpg you can see that obviously even a grinding machine was also used for "cleaning". Unprofessional "cleaning" does happen to ground dug rings very often and this way they are ruined forever. Their appearance after "cleaning" let doubt about their originality. Due to the extensive unprofessional cleaning the outer structure of the ring (which normally can be seen even at well worn rings!) is nearly totall gone. The "cleaning" also did remarkable harm to the inspriction. Only very experienced (with ground dug items) collectors and experts should professionally clean such a ring. Even more as the material is soft (but durable under the layers of dirt and outside patination). Once I did mention this in another forum and was criticized because the there shown ring would be so nice. All ignored the very bad scratches and much moore which has happened to the ring. I personally would not buy such a devastated ring, whoever did own it. It is simply forever ruined history. If this ring would have been professionally cleaned it would have been a beauty. Regards,
wotan, gd.c-b#105
"Never look for sqare eggs" as a late owner of an original FHH-dagger used to say.
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Stud, my last contribution did cross with yours with the link. Yes, 2006 there I did read "Furk" but it is right that it is "Jurk" with a caligraphic design stroke in the middle of the "J" which is proper for a "J" at these times. regards,
wotan, gd.c-b#105
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Only two small segments of the kiss-of-death to this ring by cleaning...
1.JPG (20.72 KB, 400 downloads) 1a.JPG (83.14 KB, 402 downloads) 2.JPG (12.15 KB, 402 downloads) 2a.JPG (64.87 KB, 402 downloads)
wotan, gd.c-b#105
"Never look for sqare eggs" as a late owner of an original FHH-dagger used to say.
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Agree with Wotan. It is very unfortunate that an over aggressive cleaning was done to this piece of history. A wire brush or sand paper is a fast way of destroying something.
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Not your friends when cleaning delicate collectibles:)
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from this shots , I see cast copy from original or give better shots
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. https://forum.germandaggers.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Main=6569&Number=69831#Post69831Tanker,,you got it! A motorized grinding wheel [bench grinder] was used as like in your 2nd photo. Wrong machine to use on anything jewelry related. Along with taking off metal it will 'move' metal.. Makes a total mess. Also looks like a hand held type grinder [Dremel] was used on the inside since the last photos... Most of this was done after the posts from above link in 2006!.. So,, we either have a great fake, aged ,and messed with until it can no longer be able to properly authenticate,,OR, a authentic HR that has been abused more than once if not a few times.. A shame.........
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Hello Stud, I am very sorry for my hard words concerning the ring but they are honest and true. I know that you did not do the "cleaning" but you see what problems do arise with it (I personally have the opinion, for what it is worth, it is one and the same -original- ring). Original TKRings can only be judged by minute details so what to do when all these details are gone??? Gaspare could very expertly express the bad details of such "cleaning": taking off material and "moving" material. So the ring is not what it once has been and will not be again. I think this is also the reason for that the ring has changed it´s owner since 2006 several times. Nice and desirable rings very seldom do change owners . I could trace it as I have it in my files, first erroneously as "Furk" (2006) without any connection to Jurk, now after it is clear "Jurk" I could combine the traces and it became clear. It is a pity but it is what it is. Regards,
wotan, gd.c-b#105
"Never look for sqare eggs" as a late owner of an original FHH-dagger used to say.
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Wotan, I have sent 3 or messages to you but have not received any replay so I will ask here. What "files " do you have on rings as referenced in the above post? Are they file/pics of one posted on the forum or different rings/ Hope to get a reply.
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- no doubt you have a problem with the other member..... But please not here guys..
You both are lifers here and I have much respect for the both of you,,and,,consider you both good friends... You guys said your piece, its done..
Thank you both...,Gaspare
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