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pvon #350279 06/30/2021 04:20 PM
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Gerrit,
Wow you take great closeups. As you probably already know the cup was made in Germany, Cresent moon, Crown, silver content mark 800 and the makers marks and as I thought a Austrian import mark used 1901-1921. My guess is JH. a hammer and a pick. I'll see what I can find. Thank you

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Originally Posted by Mikee
Gerrit,
Wow you take great closeups. As you probably already know the cup was made in Germany, Cresent moon, Crown, silver content mark 800 and the makers marks and as I thought a Austrian import mark used 1901-1921. My guess is JH. a hammer and a pick. I'll see what I can find. Thank you

Would be nice if you could find the name behind that hallmark

Thx
Ger

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Ludwing Zeitler of Vienna used two crossed hammers as part of its logo

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pvon #350307 07/01/2021 04:02 PM
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Dave,
Thank you for the help. Very nice maker mark! Unfortunately not the marks we are looking for. Quite a few makers used crossed hammers..Fortunately we have a combination of both of this makers registered trade marks in two forms which he was allowed to use. Lets keep searching.

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Here I have a silvered statuette of a sucessful hunter bearing his prey (a chamoise) on his shoulders, walking down over a small ice field.

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"Never look for sqare eggs" as a late owner of an original FHH-dagger used to say.
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And a small silver copie of the memorial near Ischl of the famous Austrian emperor Franz Josef I, an ambitious hunter.
Regards,

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"Never look for sqare eggs" as a late owner of an original FHH-dagger used to say.
pvon #350390 07/04/2021 06:22 PM
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Mikee,

Just what trademark are you seeking to identify ? Pls repost

Dave

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Originally Posted by Dave
Mikee,

Just what trademark are you seeking to identify ? Pls repost

Dave

Dave look at my post on page 1 #350273
Crossed hammers with JH (silversmith initials)

Ger

pvon #350431 07/06/2021 06:21 PM
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From a similar mark on the the Internet:

"An old copy of Diebener's Deutscher Goldschmiede-Kalender for 1925 lists this crossed hammer mark as that of C. Well of Berlin, manufacturer of flatware & small table silver, they were probably successors to Gebr. Petersfedlt of Berlin, who registered the mark in 1894 (but had been using it from 1882) "

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Gebr. Petersfedlt of Berlin:

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pvon #350433 07/06/2021 06:33 PM
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Dave, Thank you. C. Well was one of my guesses as well until I saw the close up of the makers mark in letter form. No match to C.Well. I believe we will find this maker.

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Very interesting stuff, I have always loved this type of detective work in identifying an unknown maker’s mark.


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pvon #350507 07/14/2021 02:52 PM
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Mikee,

That Gebruder Pertersfeldt (above) seems like a match.

Dave

pvon #350510 07/15/2021 03:38 AM
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Dave,

A few makers used crossed hammers with some variation of course as well as some adding a combination of both forms of maker marks. Ours is as well a combination of both types of registered trade marks. The trade mark in letter form is what we want to key in on imo. Match it and we more than likely found our maker as long as they used crossed hammers. I believe its the stylized letters JH, or possibly JFH. Tell me you see the F as well! lol

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Originally Posted by Mikee
Dave,

A few makers used crossed hammers with some variation of course as well as some adding a combination of both forms of maker marks. Ours is as well a combination of both types of registered trade marks. The trade mark in letter form is what we want to key in on imo. Match it and we more than likely found our maker as long as they used crossed hammers. I believe its the stylized letters JH, or possibly JFH. Tell me you see the F as well! lol

Looking at the last one its more likely to be a K
For sure its no F inbetween

JK is my best shot

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Someting small to add!

Collectors have stepped up with showing unreal stuff!

PVON

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,,ok,, Doesn't look like a PL buckle... What type of buckle is it? How about a behind shot. The leather marked in any way?

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Also interested in what it is. We have 190 buckles in the Belt Buckle Gallery and never seen one like that before.


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Its forestry I believe! Got it from Houston yrs ago!

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pvon #350689 07/24/2021 04:02 AM
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We do have it in the Belt Buckle Gallery. State Forestry Officer Buckle - Hessen/Baden type 2 - Worn 1933-38.


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pvon #350692 07/24/2021 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by pvon
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Nice to see it still has its original skinner, does it still bears the etch?

Ger

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Well gents here a few of my uniforms
Forestry "Oberforstwart" and Schützenbund
Enjoy the pics.

Cheers
Ger

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Everything in the pics is wonderful, but I can't take my eyes off the display case of Army's.
My complements on a wonderful layout, very well done.
Can I assume there are some Carl J Krebs in there?
I have to get to work on my display, all now in safe in zip cases.
Thanks for showing.
Ed

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Originally Posted by ed773
Ger
Everything in the pics is wonderful, but I can't take my eyes off the display case of Army's.
My complements on a wonderful layout, very well done.
Can I assume there are some Carl J Krebs in there?
I have to get to work on my display, all now in safe in zip cases.
Thanks for showing.
Ed

Thx Ed for the nice words.
Im a Pack lover, i cut down a bit on my collection, i had 25 Packs, but sold the doubles, no i have 19 Packs, all differ in handwork, scabbard, grip etc, i have 10 slants, 6 early type 2 aluminium ones , and of course the 3 different Type 3 variaties.
So what is seen are almost all Packs wink with 2 exceptions: an early Puma slant (mint with unique guard) and a Klaas with silvered alu Pack type 2 fittings ( totally Pack fitted, including scabbard)

Cheers
Ger

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Hello Gerrit

I agree with Ed on a wonderful display you are showing!

Very nice layout!

Yes I agree on army daggers like Ed states,you must show them in dagger section!

Now on to the other superb items!

The flag or banner is a beauty! Tell us about it!

The weight of these because of material used always worried me!

Very difficult to display because of stress but you have done well!

I don't have a full understanding of Hunting and Forestry stuff but must admit they are eye catching!

Uniform and all the items are a time capsule for sure!

Any info on who it belonged too?

Thanks for sharing and taking time to let us explore the beauty of your display!


PVON

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Just beautiful, Ger.

Thank you for sharing.

Love the shooting items.

Johnz


Always looking for Eickhorns and etched bayonets.
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Wow, Gerrit !

That is a great collection. I envy you those Army Daggers.

Also the Forestry/Shooting items. I is an under-appreciated branch of our hobby. Is that a Deutscher Reichsbahn shooting chain ?

Can we see more ... of all the items.

Thanks,
Dave

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Originally Posted by Dave
Wow, Gerrit !

That is a great collection. I envy you those Army Daggers.

Also the Forestry/Shooting items. I is an under-appreciated branch of our hobby. Is that a Deutscher Reichsbahn shooting chain ?

Can we see more ... of all the items.

Thanks,
Dave

Hi Dave,

i have posted the shooting chain in detail on the first page already, it bears the Kings of 1933 up till 1943
The uniform and shooting book can also seen in detail.

Ger

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Originally Posted by pvon
Hello Gerrit

I agree with Ed on a wonderful display you are showing!

Very nice layout!

Yes I agree on army daggers like Ed states,you must show them in dagger section!

Now on to the other superb items!

The flag or banner is a beauty! Tell us about it!

The weight of these because of material used always worried me!

Very difficult to display because of stress but you have done well!

I don't have a full understanding of Hunting and Forestry stuff but must admit they are eye catching!

Uniform and all the items are a time capsule for sure!

Any info on who it belonged too?

Thanks for sharing and taking time to let us explore the beauty of your display!


PVON

Thx PVON for the nice words, im working on a complete overview of all types that E.Pack made from 1935 up untill the last Type 3 in light weight alu-zink cast.
I'm missing 1 type of feather enhancement on a type 1, and the second logo on a aluminium type 2, if i got them covered ( i know the 2 gents that have them in their collection) then i might publish-post the E.Pack complete army daggers history.
Until then im patiently waiting wink

The Flag is a bavarian vet. Flag from the mid 20ths.
On the other side it has a huge EK 1 in the middle, its 120x105 cm so pretty large.
Underneath it is a Eickhorn IOD by eickhorn in damast with raised golden letters.
This sword was presented to him by the 4. Kompanie der 5.Lothringisches IR 144 as a memorial of his Kompanie when he got the command of the 8. Kompanie of the 5. Lothr.IR144 ( listed on 08 nov 1915)

Regards
Ger

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I'll add a couple of photos

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Here are my latest 2 additions: a Mecklenburg Hirschfänger (identified by posted period reference catalogue that shows this type) with skinner and a F.Dula Waidbesteck smile
Cheers
Ger

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Those are some really nice blades.
I really like the F Dula's.
I guess my two Puma White Hunters will have to do for now.
Ed

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Oh yea!

Illya

Very nice piece and I like the knot!

Ger

Some nice pieces are being shown!

How can younot like this stuff!

Fellas

Nice pics make stuff come alive!


Thanks for taking the time to share!

PVON

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I appreciate all that has been shown. I will share some of my few items.

Hunting Association members stick pin.

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So, is this a Game Wardens badge or a hunting License badge? Thoughts?

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"jagdaufseher" translates as Hunting Warden wink


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True, the license question arose from page three of the following thread.
https://forum.germandaggers.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=269052&page=1

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WOW!

I absolutely love this hunting related stuff! Thank you to everyone posting.

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A mixture of a few items. Best!

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