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Just a little something!
I believe this is Gary holding it at a show a few yrs ago!
Gary has so much nice stuff!
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Now thats the one everyone wants cheers Ryan
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Hello, here my counterpart for foresters, lower grades, by HOELLER. Regards,
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Oh, sorry, the one in the first photograph is the HOERSTER model from which I have only the foresters upward grades model. Regards,
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Just beautiful Wotan! You killed it with that pic!
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Always nice to see your goodies!
I can only imagine what Gary has been up to!
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Imho the absolutely nicest Hirschfänger mit Hoheitszeichen (hunting dagger with national emblem) is the one by CLEMEN & JUNG. Yes, I know, there is a wrong troddel attached (the one which would be used with a shooters ass. dagger) but it did come to me this way and therefore I let it his way. Even more as I do have proper spare portepees. Regard.
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A beauty indeed!
Thanks for sharing guys!
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just outstanding thanks, R
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Anyone have something that is a good fit with our items!
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My small contribution to the topic. These items were never super high on my list of favorites but one holding them, I'm always impressed by the workmanship and detail. Love them now.
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Non marked, but Eickhorn, light boar spear.
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Boar spear....darn auto correct.
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Fixed it for you John 
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Hello I don't really collect forestry or hunting items and this isn't an edged blade but a flag I've just picked up not too long ago. Double sided about 5ft x 8ft and with separately applied pieces. thanks for taking a look Duzig(Bill)
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One out of a household, with the ultrarare forest green "Ost" cufftitle. Most collectors never have seen nor heard of it. I have also the certain shoulder boards and the collar tabs (the uniform jacket went to time) but these are not in the pic. In the "wearing-" pic you can see exactly this cutlass to be worn. Regards,
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Thanks for sharing collectors!
Nice stuff!
Here is Jim Bond,a advanced collector who I ran into at show!
He is a member here on GD!
Some of his smalls!
Hope to see him again after all this covid and no shows!
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Very nice, Pvon,
And Mr. Bond, hope to see you posting. These medal are incredible.
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I echo outstanding cheers and best, Ryan
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I would love to see more. Or closeups.
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SchĂĽtzenbund Pokal - Rifle association Cup, silver 13 lot, comes with the original cardboard box The other one bears the Austrian Emperors Eagle, i love these detailed silver Cups! Ger [/img ![[Linked Image]](https://forum.germandaggers.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=download&Number=198489&filename=1.jpg) [/img] ![[Linked Image]](https://forum.germandaggers.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=download&Number=198490&filename=2.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](https://forum.germandaggers.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=download&Number=198491&filename=3.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](https://forum.germandaggers.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=download&Number=198492&filename=7.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](https://forum.germandaggers.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=download&Number=198493&filename=8.jpg)
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Here some more.. ![[Linked Image]](https://forum.germandaggers.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=download&Number=198494&filename=5.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](https://forum.germandaggers.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=download&Number=198495&filename=6.jpg)
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Would you mind posting a closeup of the German silver marks from your 5th Deutches Bundesschiessen silver cup held in Stuttgart in 1875. I have the same one I recieved from a deceased veterans spouse many years ago.More pictures of the Innsbruck cup would be nice as well.Thank you.
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Would you mind posting a closeup of the German silver marks from your 5th Deutches Bundesschiessen silver cup held in Stuttgart in 1875. I have the same one I recieved from a deceased veterans spouse many years ago.More pictures of the Innsbruck cup would be nice as well.Thank you. Its the hallmark of Eduard Foerh, the Royal court jeweler of stuttgart 1835-1904 Its a 13 Lot, that means 13 of 16 part silver, that would make this one being 812.5 / 1000 silver Cheers Ger ![[Linked Image]](https://forum.germandaggers.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=download&Number=198514&filename=Foehr.jpg)
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Misspelled that one, most be of course Eduard Foehr Here or some of the Austrian Cup Cheers Ger ![[Linked Image]](https://forum.germandaggers.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=download&Number=198515&filename=i2.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](https://forum.germandaggers.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=download&Number=198519&filename=i1.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](https://forum.germandaggers.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=download&Number=198516&filename=i3.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](https://forum.germandaggers.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=download&Number=198518&filename=i4.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](https://forum.germandaggers.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=download&Number=198517&filename=i6.jpg)
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Here the one one showing the hallmarks
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Here a rare Königskette for the shooting King of the shooting association Railway department of Ansbach Contains the names of the winners from 1933 until 1943
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here some more
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Gerrit Outstanding cups. Thanks for showing. Those are super Eagles. Remind me of the the Spanish version of the Blue Division East Front medal Eagle. That is one nice looking medal in my opinion, still want one. Ed
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Ger,
Outstanding!. Thank you for sharing.
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Very hard to follow a presentation like that Ger, super!
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Gerrit,
Thank you for showing extra pictures for us. That Eisenbahn chain would have to be rare imo. I love it! Agreed, yes it is Edward Foehr thank you mine is the same maker. The Innsbruck cup; The marks are German. Do you know the maker? Can't see it very clear,maybe Hermann Konejung or C. Well, but it's only a guess. What is the mark above the 800 silver content mark? Very nice, Thank you in advance.
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Very historical these chains. Hope you all dont mind me posting one. Thank you
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Holy cow!
Great stuff folks!
Mike
post all you want!
Tell us about chains!
Gerrit
Stunning indeed!
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Mikee im not at home right now but i saw this similar one in Austria, looks like JK with crossed hammers. I will take a picture of mine later today, then there will be 2 to compare, should do the trick.
Thx Gents for the nice words, appreciated!
Cheers Ger
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Gerrit, Wow you take great closeups. As you probably already know the cup was made in Germany, Cresent moon, Crown, silver content mark 800 and the makers marks and as I thought a Austrian import mark used 1901-1921. My guess is JH. a hammer and a pick. I'll see what I can find. Thank you
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Gerrit, Wow you take great closeups. As you probably already know the cup was made in Germany, Cresent moon, Crown, silver content mark 800 and the makers marks and as I thought a Austrian import mark used 1901-1921. My guess is JH. a hammer and a pick. I'll see what I can find. Thank you Would be nice if you could find the name behind that hallmark Thx Ger
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Ludwing Zeitler of Vienna used two crossed hammers as part of its logo
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Dave, Thank you for the help. Very nice maker mark! Unfortunately not the marks we are looking for. Quite a few makers used crossed hammers..Fortunately we have a combination of both of this makers registered trade marks in two forms which he was allowed to use. Lets keep searching.
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Here I have a silvered statuette of a sucessful hunter bearing his prey (a chamoise) on his shoulders, walking down over a small ice field.
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And a small silver copie of the memorial near Ischl of the famous Austrian emperor Franz Josef I, an ambitious hunter. Regards,
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Mikee,
Just what trademark are you seeking to identify ? Pls repost
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Mikee,
Just what trademark are you seeking to identify ? Pls repost
Dave Dave look at my post on page 1 #350273 Crossed hammers with JH (silversmith initials) Ger
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From a similar mark on the the Internet:
"An old copy of Diebener's Deutscher Goldschmiede-Kalender for 1925 lists this crossed hammer mark as that of C. Well of Berlin, manufacturer of flatware & small table silver, they were probably successors to Gebr. Petersfedlt of Berlin, who registered the mark in 1894 (but had been using it from 1882) "
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Dave, Thank you. C. Well was one of my guesses as well until I saw the close up of the makers mark in letter form. No match to C.Well. I believe we will find this maker.
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Very interesting stuff, I have always loved this type of detective work in identifying an unknown maker’s mark.
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Mikee,
That Gebruder Pertersfeldt (above) seems like a match.
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Dave,
A few makers used crossed hammers with some variation of course as well as some adding a combination of both forms of maker marks. Ours is as well a combination of both types of registered trade marks. The trade mark in letter form is what we want to key in on imo. Match it and we more than likely found our maker as long as they used crossed hammers. I believe its the stylized letters JH, or possibly JFH. Tell me you see the F as well! lol
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Dave,
A few makers used crossed hammers with some variation of course as well as some adding a combination of both forms of maker marks. Ours is as well a combination of both types of registered trade marks. The trade mark in letter form is what we want to key in on imo. Match it and we more than likely found our maker as long as they used crossed hammers. I believe its the stylized letters JH, or possibly JFH. Tell me you see the F as well! lol Looking at the last one its more likely to be a K For sure its no F inbetween JK is my best shot
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Someting small to add!
Collectors have stepped up with showing unreal stuff!
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,,ok,, Doesn't look like a PL buckle... What type of buckle is it? How about a behind shot. The leather marked in any way?
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Also interested in what it is. We have 190 buckles in the Belt Buckle Gallery and never seen one like that before.
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Its forestry I believe! Got it from Houston yrs ago!
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We do have it in the Belt Buckle Gallery. State Forestry Officer Buckle - Hessen/Baden type 2 - Worn 1933-38.
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Nice to see it still has its original skinner, does it still bears the etch? Ger
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Well gents here a few of my uniforms Forestry "Oberforstwart" and SchĂĽtzenbund Enjoy the pics.
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Ger Everything in the pics is wonderful, but I can't take my eyes off the display case of Army's. My complements on a wonderful layout, very well done. Can I assume there are some Carl J Krebs in there? I have to get to work on my display, all now in safe in zip cases. Thanks for showing. Ed
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Ger Everything in the pics is wonderful, but I can't take my eyes off the display case of Army's. My complements on a wonderful layout, very well done. Can I assume there are some Carl J Krebs in there? I have to get to work on my display, all now in safe in zip cases. Thanks for showing. Ed Thx Ed for the nice words. Im a Pack lover, i cut down a bit on my collection, i had 25 Packs, but sold the doubles, no i have 19 Packs, all differ in handwork, scabbard, grip etc, i have 10 slants, 6 early type 2 aluminium ones , and of course the 3 different Type 3 variaties. So what is seen are almost all Packs  with 2 exceptions: an early Puma slant (mint with unique guard) and a Klaas with silvered alu Pack type 2 fittings ( totally Pack fitted, including scabbard) Cheers Ger
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Hello Gerrit
I agree with Ed on a wonderful display you are showing!
Very nice layout!
Yes I agree on army daggers like Ed states,you must show them in dagger section!
Now on to the other superb items!
The flag or banner is a beauty! Tell us about it!
The weight of these because of material used always worried me!
Very difficult to display because of stress but you have done well!
I don't have a full understanding of Hunting and Forestry stuff but must admit they are eye catching!
Uniform and all the items are a time capsule for sure!
Any info on who it belonged too?
Thanks for sharing and taking time to let us explore the beauty of your display!
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Just beautiful, Ger.
Thank you for sharing.
Love the shooting items.
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Wow, Gerrit !
That is a great collection. I envy you those Army Daggers.
Also the Forestry/Shooting items. I is an under-appreciated branch of our hobby. Is that a Deutscher Reichsbahn shooting chain ?
Can we see more ... of all the items.
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Wow, Gerrit !
That is a great collection. I envy you those Army Daggers.
Also the Forestry/Shooting items. I is an under-appreciated branch of our hobby. Is that a Deutscher Reichsbahn shooting chain ?
Can we see more ... of all the items.
Thanks, Dave Hi Dave, i have posted the shooting chain in detail on the first page already, it bears the Kings of 1933 up till 1943 The uniform and shooting book can also seen in detail. Ger
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Hello Gerrit
I agree with Ed on a wonderful display you are showing!
Very nice layout!
Yes I agree on army daggers like Ed states,you must show them in dagger section!
Now on to the other superb items!
The flag or banner is a beauty! Tell us about it!
The weight of these because of material used always worried me!
Very difficult to display because of stress but you have done well!
I don't have a full understanding of Hunting and Forestry stuff but must admit they are eye catching!
Uniform and all the items are a time capsule for sure!
Any info on who it belonged too?
Thanks for sharing and taking time to let us explore the beauty of your display!
PVON Thx PVON for the nice words, im working on a complete overview of all types that E.Pack made from 1935 up untill the last Type 3 in light weight alu-zink cast. I'm missing 1 type of feather enhancement on a type 1, and the second logo on a aluminium type 2, if i got them covered ( i know the 2 gents that have them in their collection) then i might publish-post the E.Pack complete army daggers history. Until then im patiently waiting  The Flag is a bavarian vet. Flag from the mid 20ths. On the other side it has a huge EK 1 in the middle, its 120x105 cm so pretty large. Underneath it is a Eickhorn IOD by eickhorn in damast with raised golden letters. This sword was presented to him by the 4. Kompanie der 5.Lothringisches IR 144 as a memorial of his Kompanie when he got the command of the 8. Kompanie of the 5. Lothr.IR144 ( listed on 08 nov 1915) Regards Ger
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Here are my latest 2 additions: a Mecklenburg Hirschfänger (identified by posted period reference catalogue that shows this type) with skinner and a F.Dula Waidbesteck  Cheers Ger
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Ger Those are some really nice blades. I really like the F Dula's. I guess my two Puma White Hunters will have to do for now. Ed
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Oh yea!
Illya
Very nice piece and I like the knot!
Ger
Some nice pieces are being shown!
How can younot like this stuff!
Fellas
Nice pics make stuff come alive!
Thanks for taking the time to share!
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I appreciate all that has been shown. I will share some of my few items.
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So, is this a Game Wardens badge or a hunting License badge? Thoughts?
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"jagdaufseher" translates as Hunting Warden 
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WOW!
I absolutely love this hunting related stuff! Thank you to everyone posting.
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A mixture of a few items. Best!
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 Excellent display. --dj--Joe
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I have a few targets but this one is large! Thank you and hope you like it.
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I hope you don't mind some old wood carving pictures. Thank you
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Stained glass items are great to collect.
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Stained glass very old. St. Hubertus.
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Presentation prize old powder horn.
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Good topic. Wonderful to see the displays/items,,,years of hard work there!
Mikee,, ,,thats artwork!! A treat to see. ..,G.
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Thank you G,
Glad you like it. I love the art and skill it takes as well. Here is another very old wood carving. Thank you.
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Another one of my targets, WHW 1942
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Mikee
Thanks for taking the time to show! Very nice items!
Amazing items and artwork!
History of stuff just adds to the story don't you think!
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Very nice porcelain you show, I do like those Rosenthal stags, I have a couple of them in the white and monochrome, I'm yet to find one similar to your colouring that shows no damage, there tough to find in mint condition, much cheaper than Allach but just as nice.
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Found this nice Black Forest bear just this last weekend, around 10" x 6".
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pvon, You post some very nice things! Thank you!
Hey Gary,
Very nice catch! Your Damhirsch on the right has very unique coloring, I like it! It really brings it to life...Your absolutele right they are getting harder to find in great condition. Im looking for another just like mine,no luck so far.
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Absolutely enjoy this hunting and shooting related stuff. Thank you all!
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Very nic Baz
So much shown has made this topic a winner!
Here is something I showed before and Bill Warda made the folling comment!
I had bought from Andy! Military Nut!
The German Buffalo Bill it looks like!
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Paul,
Our dear old friend Andy has been having a definite "hot-streak" as of late, he's really turning up the goods. In all sincerity it couldn't happen to a finer gentleman, steady as the Rock of Gibralter.
That has to be one of the finest shooting-related photos I've ever seen, it's very unusual to see an example in full color. There are some fantastic decorations displayed on the man's jacket, an unimaginable array for us shooting enthusiasts.
All topped off with a first class beer stein that belonged to him, too. That's defintely the icing on the cake! Great early depiction of the shooter's logo, it looks like a well-executed painting under the glaze. Congratulations on adding these very nice Sch�tzen pieces to your collection and thanks for sharing them here on the forum.
Best!
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Woah! I don't believe I have ever seen one in color. Just look at those awards. I would love to find a shooting memorabilia mug.
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Andy was at it a very long time. The amount of piece he's turned up is staggering. Many were just sold at the SOS and the remainder of his pieces including items from his personal collection will be offered at the MAX at a 'all must go' sale,,,so make a decent offer and you'll get it!
Gary,,, what is that bear made of? wood? bone? or ?
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Here is a mint Luft Forestry knife member Paul Z had for sale awhile back!
He passed also! Hung with Mr Fabulous on the circut!
These 2 found lots of stuff!
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Gaspere,
The bear is made of wood, these things were made in the Black Forest region of Germany, typically in Bavaria, most are made from pine and are very light, this one is probably from the 1920's give or take 10 years either way, they are made to this day as tourist pieces, I have a few other Black forest carvings of wild boars which are quite common, I stick to the smaller pieces, some can be up to 6' tall. I also like the Bronze stags as well. The Bronzes are mostly by either by Karner or Fritz Diller.
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Amazing Gary
I see your still getting your things framed!
How do you make room ! And with so many wonderful pieces how do you decide what to display!
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PVON I display everything, nothing is stored away,
Gary
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Holy cow Gary! I see so many nice things! I will have to digest this for awhile. WOW!
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Stunning Stuff gents, just eyecandy! i wanted to add my latest addition, a hunting set made of banddamst by GebrĂĽder Kellner Wien. (Vienna) The Geb.Kellner took the Geb. Maurer business over in 1880, and i guess this set will be made in the 1890-1910 period. Nice to see that the Vienna maker used Toledo banddamast for this hunting dagger, as we all know that Sheffield, Solingen and Toledo all produced their own banddamast, most have been a good priced piece of damast  the grips is made of ivory instead of stag (looking at the horizontal grain of the skinners gripplates, similar to the senior Forestry grips and the background is died- painted black for contrast. The leather work is also a true piece of art, it has a wooden frame and the top of the skinnersknife bay is covered with red vilt to protect the grippplates. The banddamast pattern is in mimt comdition and realy makes it an eyecatcher. the carvings on the grips well what can i say? a piece of art? Enjoy this beauty! Regards Ger
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and a couple more...
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Gerrit,
Just wonderful.
Great display, Gary.
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Thanks for showing Gerrit
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Gerrit,
Congratulations! A great piece to your already outstanding collection. WOW! Yes a piece of artwork! Best!
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Hello
A big wow!
Never seen this type or style! Condition is outstanding!
Pics are wonderful!
Thanks for showing!
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Thank you Gents for the nice words, appreciated! This one realy stands out in my large glas display, a true eyecatcher!
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Here are a few additions i bought lately
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some more pics
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and the last macros of the awards
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-  ,,, Wow,,,some extra fine pieces here. Thanks for showing them guys. Really,,,museum quality,, a treat to see,,,thanks again..,G.
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Top qualitystuff!
Enjoy seeing!
Thanks for sharing!
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Ger:
I love that Eickhorn triple oval shooting prize, just fantastic
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I love that Eickhorn triple oval shooting prize, just fantastic
John Thx John, its a very high quality piece with a killer etch, but hard to get it properly on a picture  Thx Gents for the nice words! Ger
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Gerrit,
Oh wow can you find them. Love that shooting prize!
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Waoo ! quelles merveilles đź‘Ť thanks for sharing = Seppi +
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Gents here is my latest gem. Ill let the pics do the talking, only the leather shows its age of 125 years.
Cheers Ger
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Another lovely item, Ger.
Always looking for Eickhorns and etched bayonets.
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Another nice find! Love it!
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Thx Gents, sometimes the simple elegant daggers like this one, the ones that in hand have the better over those "Prunk" Deluxe Hirschfängers. I love it, its nice to have it bought on a show, meanwhile i wait for my 3 F. Dula's Waidbestecke, they move pretty slow during shipping from Germany, they are stuck somewhere on an export distribution center  near the border. Ger
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Ger Very nice blade, as usual for your finds, and a marked scabbard to boot. Can't wait to see those F Dula's, I just love those. Sadly I have to just look at my Puma White Hunters and wish. Congrats Ed
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Ger Very nice blade, as usual for your finds, and a marked scabbard to boot. Can't wait to see those F Dula's, I just love those. Sadly I have to just look at my Puma White Hunters and wish. Congrats Ed Here are my F.Dula's the 3 Dula's just arrived. Best Ger
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WOW, what can I say? Beautiful Ed
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Thank you for sharing. Appreciate seeing such interesting items.
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Yes, Very interesting!
I have to ask! F.Dula's is it a type? maker?
Can't say I have seen these before!
Can we see the blades? Time frame?
They have a rad handle look!
Any pics of them worn or used for?
Very interesting!
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Wow Gerrit,
I have a soft spot for these. One day I'm going to grab one up.
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Yes, Very interesting!
I have to ask! F.Dula's is it a type? maker?
Can't say I have seen these before!
Can we see the blades? Time frame?
They have a rad handle look!
Any pics of them worn or used for?
Very interesting!
PVON Here is a great thread by Gary, who i guess owns the mayority of these sets https://forum.germandaggers.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=156933#Post156933Timeframe 1935-41/42 F.Dula is the maker. I will post some pics when i can find the time. If you go through Gary's thread you see a guy in a DJS Uniform wearing one with a DJS Portepee attached to it. Cheers Ger
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Here a couple of pics of the blades.
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Wow, those are sweet!! Guess the DGRM is because of the blade shape[?]
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The Maker of these was J.E. Dittert, Freidrich Dula was the bladesmith. The patent date for these was in October 1936 so any without DRGM on the blade is prior to that date.
Interesting knife on the far left of Gerrits picture, I do not recognise that as F Dula or at least I have never seen that type before, is it marked at all, it's certainly in a F Dula scabbard.
Gaspere, Yes I presume the DRGM was for the blade shape, these were designed by Walter Frevert who later became Gorings chief Forester in Rominten(hunting reserve)
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The Maker of these was J.E. Dittert, Freidrich Dula was the bladesmith. The patent date for these was in October 1936 so any without DRGM on the blade is prior to that date.
Interesting knife on the far left of Gerrits picture, I do not recognise that as F Dula or at least I have never seen that type before, is it marked at all, it's certainly in a F Dula scabbard.
Gaspere, Yes I presume the DRGM was for the blade shape, these were designed by Walter Frevert who later became Gorings chief Forester in Rominten(hunting reserve)
Gary Gary the full stag knife is in bowiesstyle and is marked with "Handarbeit" on its ricasso. I have been offered a second one also in a Dula scabbard, by the same seller from who i bought the 3 Dula's , i have been offered these sets by a friend of the former owner who passed away. He was a long time collector. It was great seeing another one in another collection, so there has been produced a small batch. Cheers Ger
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Found a nice Schutzen mug, Hope you all like it,
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Mikee,
I've not seen a shooting mug before. Cool.
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Hey Dave,
Here's another Schutzen style mug or tankard. Steins are bigger but I guess calling them all steins is fine lol
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This is one of the official mugs for the 18th Deutches Bundesschiessen held in Munich 16-23 July 1927. 189 targets and 5000 shooters with many many thousands of spectators.
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Nice Schutzen mugs you got there Mikee. I have viewed some on the popular auction site, but I have not found a vintage Schutzen mug from a Town or City I wanted.
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5000 shooters!! great turnout!! These are cool. One time I think we had a Stein/Tankard subject area here years ago.. That guy [the Mod I think] had some really great pieces!! Andy had some really nice ones. think the family split them up..
These are 3 really nice ones! thanks for showing.....
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Hey Wetzel, Hey G,
Thank you, and that wasn't the largest turn out. I believe the very first one held in Frankfurt was 8000 shooters but with only 100 targets.
I like just about anything shooting and hunting related.
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Silver prize cup from 19th Deutches Bundesschiessen held in Koln 1930 with 3500 shooters and 200 targets and Munich mug. The Schutzenliesel or target girl pictured on the left was based on a real person. Her story is a nice historical read. Best!
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1906 Silver shooting prize cup
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Silver prize cup from the 20th Deutches Bundesschiessen held in leipzig 1934, the last of the great matches, 1800 shooters and only175 targets. After this it all changed. In 1937 the Deutscher Schutzenbund united with the Reichsverband Deutscher Kleinkaliber-Schutzenverbande and the Deutscher Kartell for Jagd and Sportschiessen and formed into the Deutscher Schutzen-Verband.
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I don't think I showed this before. German target rifle with heavy octagon barrel, which was one of the shooters in the 15th Deutsches Bundesschiessen held in Munich 15-22 July 1906, 5000 shooters and 176 targets and was in others as well. So I'm lucky to own it. The double set triggers, once set you blow on it and it will go off lol. They are works of art!
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Engraved action with double set triggers and diopter sights. Thanks for looking in and hope you enjoy this stuff as much as I do. Best!
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Stunning Mikee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Hey G,
Thank you and glad you liked it.
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love the rifle. the mugs are great to. fill them up with some Oktoberfest.
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Thanks Luftbud,
I have others when I get more time I'll attempt to post them. I have plenty of large mugs from the Octoberfest in Munich and on occasion I fill them up lol.
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Mikee suggested I should post my 1935 pewter bierkrug (beer mug) here. I was undecided for a few days whether to first post it here or make a new thread. So, when the 1935 pewter bierkrug arrived I decided to create a new thread (The Zimmerstutzen and related objects) and then take Mikee's later suggestion to add it to this thread since Mikee has posted so many wonderful German drinking vessels here.
"The lid is engraved with the owner's name: Konrad Blatterlein, the rim is engraved: Zimmerstutzen Schutzengesellsch. Goldkronach, above the shooting target with crossed rifles and fedora emblem is engraved: Schutzen Konig, below the shooting target with crossed rifles and fedora emblem is engraved: 1935, and below the date is a sun Swastika symbol. When I took it out of the box, I was very pleased and said to myself, WOW. Then I looked for a maker's mark on the bottom and found nothing. I then opened the lid and seen the maker's mark: "Georg Sturm, Bayreuth" in an oval."
PS OK Mikee, I know you have "Zimmerstutzen and related objects", how about posting something on the new thread and do you actually shoot your Zimmerstutzen (Parlor rifle)?
C. Wetzel-20609
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Last night I found and bought another pewter bierkrug (beer mug) made by Georg Sturm, Bayreuth.
The front of the 1926 Pewter bierkrug has the "old" coat-of-arms of Bayreuth by Tyroff (1835) emblem.
The lid is engraved: "Priv. Schutzengilde Bayreuth, Endschiessen 1926, 4. Preis".
The abbreviation of "Priv." is for: "Privilegierte" according to my friend in Oberkirch and I did find a Schutzen document with the word,"Privilegierte".
The 1926 pewter bierkrug is maker marked with Bayreuther, Gg. Sturm, Eichala.
C. Wetzel-20609
Last edited by C. Wetzel-20609; 11/05/2024 06:44 PM.
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