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Ok collectors who has Tiger stripe handles or other odd wood!
I would like to know how or if this was common!
This RZM dagger was bought by me yrs ago from Houston Coates!
Anyone got something to show?
Thanks
PVON
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Regards Sean
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Now that my friend has got it all, superb
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Very beautiful grips shown, here!
When it comes to "tiger stripe" handles, there exist, in my opinion, a lot of misunderstanding. Many of these handles show darker stripes in the wood, which were simply applied with candle flames: these are not "tiger stripes".
Real "tiger stripes" are light reflections on the woods surface, the stripes are moving when you turn the grip into natural light. This light effect is not so easy to photograph. These grips are in my opinion quite rare to find.
Best regards,
Herman
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Herman
Those are nice! Always enjoyed seeing your stuff!
Interesting info!
Candle flame! Never heard that! I thought maybe the type of wood or maybe a finish or stain! I remember furniture could have it painted on!
I know I used to refinish furniture and one time I was shocked when I took off a beautful finish that wasn't the grain of wood!
Thanks for showing!
PVON
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A couple more of the same
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"handles show darker stripes in the wood, which were simply applied with candle flames: these are not "tiger stripes". "Real "tiger stripes" are light reflections on the woods surface, the stripes are moving when you turn the grip into natural light."
Candle Flame Applied - Seems like a difficult technique.. Was this actually done during the 3rd reich era? or you mean they were done postwar?
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The burning process was used during the 19th century to put faux tiger stripes on Pennsylvania or Kentucky rifle stocks. The stocks would be completed but without applying an oil or wax finish. Coarse twine was soaked in kerosene, loosely wrapped around the completed gun stock, and lit. When the twine burned off, the wood was rubbed with linseed oil. If done successfully, it gives a very pleasing finish, but the stripes do not move when turned in the light like true tiger stripes.
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Ilya
Thank you for showing! Who were the makers?
I don't know how they were made! But I like them!
Vern
Never would have imagined that! Your right again on Kentucky Long rifles or Pennsylvania rifles!
Never put the 2 together but had seen! Faux! Yes thats the word!
Very appealing! Just SA daggers and maybe NSKK?
The rifles were very appealing for sure!
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Pvon the August Bickel i showed is an nskk
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That process would work on any light colored hard wood 
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Dumb question guys! I understand the work on rifles! Bet Vern can show us one with it!
But why on a dagger? Trying to understand! Just special occasion,extra cost! Why! When a company is making daggers lets say! Special order? Mass production!
Still learning folks!
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The makers of the previous two SA daggers are Carl Fr. Kuhrt and E. Knecht& Co . And more interesting specimens from Bismarck and F. Ed.Ohliger
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On the second dagger, you just need to catch the stripes. Sometimes they are very clearly visible, but it is difficult to photograph them.
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Dumb question guys! I understand the work on rifles! Bet Vern can show us one with it!
But why on a dagger? Trying to understand! Just special occasion,extra cost! Why! When a company is making daggers lets say! Special order? Mass production!
Still learning folks!
PVON Hi PVON, I am not excluding that some SA-NSKK men applied the stripes on their daggers their selves... but years ago, I have know a dealer on fairs, who had turned all the daggers he sold into striped grips. But yours looks very beautiful. The daggers I displayed are a Hugo Linder and a Haenel ex-Rohm. Best regards, Herman
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Thank you for showing Illa! Always nice to see others! And know the makers!
Herman
Thank you for info! Daggers are nice! But you know what? I like the scabbard and finish! The show of wear from the time period is nice and looks so nice on NSKK! Not dinked up to make it mint! So many scabbards got redone!
Best to all!
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Hi Vern,
That grip sure looks spectacular, but unfortunately, I do not think this dagger left the factory like that...
The grips used by JP Sauer & Sohn are very typical in shape and also the wood that was used was very typical and different from the one showed.
Also the guards are not the correct Suhl type in my opinion, so I am afraid this dagger is a put together piece...
Best regards,
Herman
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Interesting observations. Unfortunately I can't post better photos as the dagger is long gone.
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Hello, although in the wrong forum it might fit in this discussion, I would like to show what you will not see very often, a most early SStiger. It shows his stripes only in the flashlight, when looking at it in normal daylight you nearly cannot detect the stripes.
If it does NOT fit in this thread feel free to remove it.
Regards,
wotan, gd.c-b#105
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Hi Wotan,
That grained ebony wood looks simply magnificent! I have never seen it like that before, thanks for showing!
Herman
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A thing of beauty thanks for sharing
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My Tiger striped Eickhorn SA.
Johnz
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Always looking for Eickhorns and etched bayonets.
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John,
Wow, that’s one I’ve never seen before. Beautiful and rare, were you ever able to find out who dedicated it?
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Billy,
Someone named Oberlander is all I know.
Johnz
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Nice stripes on those shown!
Thanks for sharing!
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Hello Collectors,
I am new in this forum. This is mine tiger stripe handle. a replica but still beautiful.
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Hello, Fienripp
Welcome to GDC. You will find lots of friends here.
The grip is very interesting. Do you know how that was done ?
What do you collect ?
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Thank you, Dave. I made this on my own. Im at the beginning of collecting edged weapons. Have a good friend which is highly engaged in edged weapons of all history parts. the more i deal with it the more i like them too. im appreciate the craftmanship on this various daggers. sorry for bad english :-)
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No apologies needed your English is far better than my Deutsch beautiful craftsmanship cheers and best and welcome Ryan
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maybe its a genetic thing. im the 7th generation of carpenters in my family :-)
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I made a new one. could anybody tell me on which US site i could sell such items excepted ebay?
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Right here on German Daggers. I would think they would be very desirable. Ed
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