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#348790 03/04/2021 05:15 PM
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Gents,

I picked up a very interesting German sidearm this week that I think is a Baden Border/customs sidearm (Badischen Seitengewehr). It appears to be a private purchase (Extra-Seitengewehr) so while it is certainly made in the Baden style it is not quite a regulation sidearm. The sidearm was made by Alexander Coppel and has a tiny "AC" maker mark on the lower edge of the blade ricasso as is found on other Coppel edged weapons. While it is not in any Coppel catalog that I have it is clearly a Coppel product from Imperial or Weimar Republic times IMHO.

The plain slab sided blade is 14" long and has a distinct ricasso and a 4" false edge along the back at the spear point. The brass hilt has a re-curved guard and the distinctive pommel is shaped like that of the M/71 Pionierfaschinenmesser and its predecessors such as the M/60 Fusillier-Seitengwehr. These Prussian sidearms typically have solid brass hilts but Baden sidearms typically have slab sided grips made of leather, wood, or plastic (hard rubber). This hilt has extra cost stag horn grips affixed with two brass rivets. The black leather scabbard is typical for these sidearms with a seam down the center of the back and scalloped brass fittings with a large flat frog stud in the Imperial construction style.

Rolf Selzer, on his website WWW.seitengewehr.de, discusses this style of sidearm in "Die Haubajonett der Koniglich Preussischen und Grossherzoglich Badischen Grenzaufseher zu Fuss". He shows similar Seitengewehre for the Baden Border Guards/Customs officials including the very similar Baden Police sidearm that has an even more exaggerated curved pommel that he indicates might have been utilized by Baden Grenzers in the brass version.

Has anyone seen this particular style of Seitengewehr before or have any thoughts on exactly what it is?

Baden bayo.JPG (49.69 KB, 46 downloads)
Baden bayo hilt.JPG (55.7 KB, 46 downloads)
Baden bayo grip back.JPG (54.91 KB, 46 downloads)
Baden bayo AC.JPG (30.66 KB, 46 downloads)

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ORPO #348791 03/04/2021 05:23 PM
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This is the Weimar Republic period Baden Police sidearm with the more distinctive curve on the pommel. The brass example on the left is the one that Selzer states may have been used by the Baden Border Police as well as the rural police. These are both seen in period catalogs as the larger service pattern or the smaller Extra-Seitengewehr. Too similar to be ignored IMHO.

Baden Polizei Seitengewehre hilts.JPG (44.43 KB, 46 downloads)
Baden Polizei Seitengewehr hilt.JPG (38.47 KB, 47 downloads)

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