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#348764 02/27/2021 03:31 PM
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So there were nazis in the 1920s. And,,maybe even making rings in 1944 but other than the HR don't think that late..

What has been seen lately are a really rare but previously unseen ring show up. They are usually SS. The new quick enamel thats really hard [but not really glass].. There have been guys collecting rings for 40 years. I know one guy couldn't have seen everything . But a few hard core ring/jewelry collectors,,and they don't even have to be of military theme. They will all tell you similar things in what to look for..

Enamel of course. Period documentation. A 'in wear' photo,,,and with the morphing programs many are now leery of these photos. A ring from a U.S. or German Veteran which has sadly been coming to a end. Coming from the family with some kind of provenance.. And,, shape. Yes the basic shape.

Silver is a precious metal. Wartime there were shortages, even laws against 'wasting' it on such things as rings. Many of the rings we collect are a brass alloy but the shape is still basically the same..

One shot here is of a 30s US ring design. Another of a German blank..The German a bit wide,,but still tapers down before midway..

Thin bands,,,this was pretty much standard.. With our rings though we also see the tapering down of the band..

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Gaspare #348765 02/27/2021 03:36 PM
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Now this is done not to just save on silver [which it did],,but for comfort.. I wear at least 2 rings every day. My wedding band,,and a skull or 'G' initial ring. Wide banded rings just don't cut it.. The are uncomfortable. It can spin and you have no idea where unless you look at your hand.

Some rings were a bit wide.. The HJ leaders appears real wide. But its really not and tapers down by midway.. Some of the Norwegian rings are a bit wide,,but still taper down..

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here's a wonderful collection spanning a pretty wide time period but all what we like to collect. [So sorry I can not remember who sent it to give credit]..

But what do we see,,all have this taper..

A ring appears that is something never seen before. Very rare organizationally. The enamel looks the part almost.. But has a wide band, really wide like the size of the cartouche going almost all way round.. Some of us collecting rings 40 years. There are regular jewelry collectors also [not military theme]. Most of us will tell you the same thing,,,walk away..
50 years from now won't matter. The Horned Viking head ring will be considered authentic. But for now ,,for yourself and those who will have them after your gone,,,Look and sometimes you just have to let it go.., Thanks, comments always welcomed...,G.

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Gaspare #348774 03/02/2021 07:14 AM
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You have started an interesting thread, Gaspare. I hope more rings of members will follow.

Here my old ring with characteristic tapering...........

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Benten,, I too hope members will post a band design photo etc...

Many ask ,,'how can you tell a ring is good so fast?? I've been collecting a bit over 40 years now.. It takes a bit of time..

For our subject area -

You need,,no,,must have, a hallmark book. I always recommend 'Tardy's'.. Some editions are small,,small enough to bring to a show until you get our time period marks memorized. You can find them used on eBay and other sites sometimes... You don't have to remember exactly all the little details.. Just concentrate on the European marks first and only for our time period 1920 - 1945.. In a small amount of time you'll know enough to see at a show and say,,,'this is from Europe and from our time period'..

Even more important,,,,look at ALL our period jewelry.. Doesn't even have to be Military theme related...
Get used to the colors of silver [800, 835, 900, 925] when they age.. The band shapes... Learn to recognize real enamel! Shapes, detail etc... Look at it all your Grandparents /families old stuff if they still have it. Pieces at Flea Markets/Bazars ,Most of the time if you ask nice enough they will let you handle the piece.. Even Rock & Gem shows good to look thru if they're around your area..

* This topic,,,the Enamel topic... Study the WestWall rings topic ,,the Patriotic rings,,, Skull rings topic,,,all pinned to the top here..

Sometimes you'll find on eBay etc. period Jewelry supply catalogs [doesn't matter what country they're from].. . They are very good as they also show tools, boxes, clasps, mens /womens pieces etc. of our period we collect.. Most of all,,be patient,,seek help if your not sure before you buy!

Have a classic shape band / ring blank,,,advertisement,, or ring,,doesn't have to be military theme,,just old from our time period and please feel free to post here for the others to learn and see,,,.

Happy hunting guys

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with the old catalogs,,,, a few years off either way is fine... SO,,if you find a 1948 catalog and its inexpensive go ahead grab it.. I'm talking a few dollars,,$10, $15. tops....

Most tools,, boxes,, some styles pretty much stayed the same for a while.. I'd say your safe up to 1950.. Same with the pre war.. !915... So your pretty much safe 1920 to 1950.......

So IF your lucky enough to find one priced right go right to 'Mens rings'.. Tools too. Cool to look at and you'll see/imagine how it was used to do your DAK ring etc.,,or,,,

The blue page,,,is a soviet catalog from the 1950s! Looking at the shapes we still see the basic shapes as our rings..

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here's a wide spread year wise we see here... and a period Finn march ring.. [those are cuff buttons on right of last old page]..

But all go towards the same thing,,,good design, detail,,and as least amount of material [metal] as possible..
Thin band,,taper towards rear, etc etc.

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An interesting and informative thread, Gaspare. Thanks for posting.


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