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#348592 01/24/2021 04:49 PM
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Normally the owner of the ring wants a place on the ring , where he has been . Osten/ East 1941 is very globally : for example Polen, Ukrain, Russia . Maybe he has been on many places ......or he didn't want to remeber where he has been exactly ? :)

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here the backside ....

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- you know us guys here are used to seeing some magnificent rings/jewelry.

This piece most certainly period shows some excellent workmanship!
A lot of work went in to this piece by someone highly skilled.. A work of art,,a campaign, trench etc. made piece I'm sure none of us wouldn't mind owning even if not our specific area/type of ring.. That is a great catch Benten!

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Thanks Gaspare, good to see you back !
It is nice to see how the corner in the initial "H" is made ....... a little hole, made by a very small drill , like a needle.

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Why the hole ? Any reason ?

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Lovely ring, Benten. Good find!
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Thanks Stephen!

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Originally Posted by Dave
Why the hole ? Any reason ?

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Originally Posted by Dave
Why the hole ? Any reason ?

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Dave, if I remember well.........when you have to saw, on a very little scale like this, you can make a mistake easily and saw too far.
If you drill a hole on the end point, before sawing to that point, it is easier to stop there ....specially when two saw lines meet in one point. You have more sawing control. This could be an explanation.

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Ahhhh

I thought maybe a poison-dispensing ring grin wink

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Or.... I could use the ring as a salt spreader 😀

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Originally Posted by benten
Originally Posted by Dave
Why the hole ? Any reason ?

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Originally Posted by Dave
Why the hole ? Any reason ?

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Dave, if I remember well.........when you have to saw, on a very little scale like this, you can make a mistake easily and saw too far.
If you drill a hole on the end point, before sawing to that point, it is easier to stop there ....specially when two saw lines meet in one point. You have more sawing control. This could be an explanation.

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Hello Benten and Dave, the reason for the "hole" is another. The monogram is a separate part, fixed by soldering. As you can see the hole it is in the middle segment of the ring, at the state of manufacturing totally surrounded by the monogram (oposite of the other parts of the monogramm which could be reached from "outside"). Therefore the jeweler had to do this whole to be able to mount the saw blade through this hole in this certain section to cut out the small inner part between "M" and "H". Normally such a hole is done in a way that you cannot detect it after the middle segment is removed, but here the hole was done too near to the monogram itself therefore it can be still detected.
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Thanks, Wotan

I learned something new

(I still like the poison dispensing theory, myself grin)

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Hello Wotan and Dave

- You have a good point concerning the middle section; I agree, you have to drill there first, before you can do the saw through the hole and saw the middle section open.
I didn’t see that. You are right here Wotan.



-There are also other drill holes that explain my vision: making a drill hole on the end, so you will not saw too far. All is on a very small scale!
The maker first made scratch or pencil lines, a design of the initials on the gold plate. Look at the inside corners of the M ; in the corners you can see that the corners are a round ; in the drawing, on the end of the inside vertical lines of the M, the maker has marked a point for the drilling hole, first . The drilling hole was more or less, in the middle of the line,
see here -----------------0 ( sawing line and hole) . The saw goes up and meets the drill hole in the middle .The result we see : the inside left line of the M ends a bit more to the left , the right line ends a bit to the right.

For me, both techniques are you used in this ring.

Benten

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