Translate German to English - Click here to open Altavista's Babel Fish Translator Click here to learn about all those symbols by people's names.

leftlogo.jpg (20709 bytes)

Upgrade to Premium Membership

Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 121
OP Offline
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 121
Hello Guys,

I was looking at some swords and noticed differences in the orientation of the eagle's head in a specific type of guard.

The Wehrmacht eagle, in documents, helmet decals, insignia, has its head turned to the left. However, in some sword guards, I see the eagle turned to the right. For example, those from the manufacturer Weyersberg and some Eickhorn.

Is this right? Is this eagle not patented (ges. Gesch.)?

Best regards,
Schmidt

įguia 1.jpg (34.88 KB, 156 downloads)
įguia 2.jpg (48.55 KB, 155 downloads)
įguia 3.jpg (21 KB, 155 downloads)
įguia 4.jpg (38.63 KB, 156 downloads)
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 318
Likes: 2
R
Offline
R
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 318
Likes: 2
This is correct and from what I have seen is the most of the swords that have these added emblems are reworks of WW1 swords to fit in with the new regime. There was also new ones with the same emblems but the examples that I have come across were reworks. I dont think there was a specific rule that sword makers had to follow on the direction of the eagle buy I could be wrong.

Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 4,274
Offline
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 4,274
From what I've seen the manufacturing time period seems to have had some influence over the orientation of the eagle, and as it was not directly connected to the NSDAP not strictly controlled. Best Regards, Fred

Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 103
K
Offline
K
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 103
Hello

Eagles looking on the left are said to be very early examples of a saber model.

For example, let's choose the EICKHORN 1693 Wrangel saber. Most of the models will be looking toward the right with the 35-41 logo.

I have a brass one with eagle facing left and the logo is the pre 35 double oval logo.

REgards

K.

Joined: Feb 2000
Posts: 6,781
Likes: 38
Online Content
Joined: Feb 2000
Posts: 6,781
Likes: 38
You can see the same thing in some other Army insignia. The eagle on the 1st pattern Heer enlisted belt buckle (approved in 1935) faced left. The 2nd pattern pattern eagle (approved in 1937) faced right.


[Linked Image from germandaggers.com]
Visit us at www.GermanDaggers.com
Contact me at Vern@GermanDaggers.com
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 429
J
Offline
J
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 429
I have seen Eickhorn swords of a certain pattern which had the eagle pointing in different directions, I believe it just an interesting variation. Not sure if it was Wrangel of Blucher, or the 1695. I will see if I can find the variation in different original catalogs and post photos if I come up with any original source material. Joe S

Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 121
OP Offline
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 121
Thanks Guys for replies!!!


Link Copied to Clipboard
Popular Topics(Views)
2,261,483 SS Bayonets
1,760,279 Teno Insignia Set
1,128,757 westwall rings
Latest New Threads
Luftwaffe Swords
by Tanker - 03/27/2024 07:29 PM
Paul Weyersberg Heer
by Tanker - 03/27/2024 07:13 PM
HJ Fahrtenmesser,
by OWN - 03/27/2024 07:05 PM
Wir fahren gegen Engelland - Battle of Britain
by Stephen - 03/27/2024 10:06 AM
Hiddensee brooch
by benten - 03/24/2024 04:13 PM
Latest New Posts
Wir fahren gegen Engelland - Battle of Britain
by Gaspare - 03/28/2024 12:34 AM
Paul Weyersberg Heer
by Tanker - 03/27/2024 11:30 PM
Luftwaffe Swords
by Tanker - 03/27/2024 07:29 PM
HJ Fahrtenmesser,
by OWN - 03/27/2024 07:05 PM
Frog question.
by Dutchman - 03/27/2024 03:27 PM
Forum Statistics
Forums42
Topics31,652
Posts328,702
Members7,501
Most Online5,900
Dec 19th, 2019
Who's Online Now
7 members (Jonesy, Seppi, Documentalist, Vern, Paul, benten, AntonGrabbe), 424 guests, and 63 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod

Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5