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#347479 08/20/2020 09:12 AM
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Hi all
Think I posted this in the wrong section earlier... Looking to purchase WW2 German 'erased Rohm' SS Dagger by Hammesfahr Gottlieb, rarity level 7. It is my first SS dagger and wanted to check what you guys think of it?s fake or not... I can try get more pictures if need be? Thanks guys


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For starters, the shape of the blade is not right. It looks as if it has been re-tipped.
Dave

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Wow really?! The seller said 100% genuine?! That?s crazy! And for nearly ?3,000... thank you for the info!


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Don't take this the wrong way but if your willing to spend 3k on an SS dagger then you need to buy some books and do some research
You cant just blow that sort of money then go on forums asking people what they think because it's too late then.i made the same mistake when i 1st started out but thankfully it was a ?150 army dagger and because of that i've never done it again.
Its all to easy to get stitched up buy a dealer claiming its 100% i see it all the time, hope this helps you out


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Adamsky #347486 08/20/2020 09:39 PM
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This is the book you need

http://www.wwiidaggers.com/SSBOOK.htm

Dave

Dave #347487 08/21/2020 02:04 AM
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I also highly recommend the other books by Tom Wittmann,

Luftwaffe
Army
Navy.

I use them a lot, especially the Luft book.

John


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And the scabbard is really in sad shape:

http://www.whartonmilitaria.co.uk/details.php?section=edgeweapons&item=EW0012

Who is this seller ?

Adamsky #347489 08/21/2020 08:34 AM
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Hi guys, firstly, thank you very much for the information. As a novice I never thought there were books about that help with this kind of thing.
I will steer clear of this one then.
Do you guys have anyone in mind that are reputable sellers then?
I will buy these books instead of the dagger and save my money for the time being then! Haha.
Really appreciate it guys


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Wow, This dagger looks terrible.
That is not a factory grind.
Scabbard looks repainted, looks like paint slopped on upper fitting.
Dave is right. retipped.
Look at
Tom Johnson
Tom Wittmann
JR Meda, JR has very nice SS things.
Good luck
Ed

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Hi
Thank you for this as well. The more info from you guys is great!

Cheers


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Im curious of a rating scale that says this dagger is a 7 .
Where is the source of this information ?

Regards Larry


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Most likely the same source that call that a factory grind, and 60% original paint.
There is black paint on both sides of the upper fitting.
And those grind marks, I'm sure not factory.
Buyer beware,
Ed

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Christ glad I came here first.
Thanks a lot guys!


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Try Meda Militaria.
JR Meda is a great guy, with lots of SS to choose from.
Ed

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Will do thanks a lot


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Was there ever a very early, SA full Rohm that had a copper scabbard? eagle? I heard of a dagger as described. Thank you.


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