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Although I know what the "Granate" exploding grenade mark looks like and know about the company from reference. I've not personally seen this mark on any type of blade before... Would anyone have a blade with the Granate mark on it to show? Thanks

Bringing this back to the top just in case someone has seen this mark on any type of blade. Thanks

The reason I asked this question back then was I found an army with this mark. It was given to me for free. But I'm not convinced it's legit. Has anyone seen this mark on a dagger? Thanks

Have never seen this mark on a period dagger or sword.

Thanks Vern

I would like to find any old garden tool or shears with this mark so I can compare.

Hello Mikee, I did a search but could not find this mark in special reference books. Can you show a pic of the mark or can you name the firm which did use the mark?
I also have not seen this mark on any german III R dagger. If I rember right a "grenade" mark was used on spanish youth knives?
Regards,

Hey wotan,

If you have Carters knife makers book volume1 A-L. it's on page 233 Peter Kamphaus. The mark shown in the book is the same on the blade but weak and not all there. Thanks.

He is listed in Fisher's as a maker of knives, shears, and cutters. No mention of swords or daggers.

Vern, That's correct.

Mikee

I have never seen that mark on anything but it shouldn't be dismissed outright just because it hasn't been seen before, would love to see a picture.

Gary

Here's a pic of the mark, I will try more pics later.

And the firm's maker mark as found on a pair of shears.....

Thanks Vern,
Do you know what year that mark is? The mark on the blade matches exactly to the one shown in Carters book. I'm a skeptical person lol

The shears were made in 1927 from the firm's 1894 patent. That mark is also on their box. Peter Kamphaus is not listed as a blade maker in any of the reference books I have.

Hi Mikee

Is that a tapered tang I see on the blade, looks an interesting mark, some credence could be given to it if we perhaps knew more in how you acquired it, I know you were given it but in what fashion, do you know where it originated from?.
If somebody was trying to make a quick buck out of it they would hardly give it to you. I'm probably one of the more optimistic collectors out there, I tend to believe in things until proven fake rather than assume it's fake and then have to have it proved legit. There are plenty of scenarios that would make this OK, as a company they were certainly around during the period so anything is possible, perhaps they had an employee going into the services and he asked if they could get him a dagger, who knows, they got one with a plain blade and stamped there mark on it, it's a possibility, that's where I am with it, I would believe its real until somebody proved it isn't otherwise somebody has gone to a lot of trouble to make a stamp for it and get no financial gain from it or the cudos for finding it, it doesn't make sense to me.

Gary

I'm with Gary on this.

Fakers wouldn't just make one and definitely would want to be making big bucks. If a dagger is being sold at a normal for the variety price, why go to the effort of creating a fake maker mark?

John

Me too. I am always attracted to things like this*

I think that the mark is stamped rather than acid etched. If that stamp was made to use on garden shears, etc, then that would make it very easy to borrow to use on a blade. The mark look like to was struck slightly to one side as well.

Mikee, did it have any fittings or was it a loose blade ?

Dave

* Along time ago I called a friend what did motel buys to see if he picked up anything new. He said he found an SA dagger with a funny pointy-wing eagle and unusual blade font that someone had faked up. Even the grip looked hand carved ..........

Perhaps a few pictures of the whole dagger might help.

Gary

The maker mark on a knife made in the mid 1930s.....

Thanks Vern for all the great info and marks. So they did make blades. Interesting!

I new a guy that had a couple daggers, an Army back pack made of cow skin, googles and maybe some other things, he didn't want them so he gave them to me. I'm not sure where he acquired them and haven't seen him in a number of years.

Gary, I sure wish it was a tapered tang but it's not.

Dave, Yes it came with the fittings and I'm not impressed. At the most I'm thinking a late war hurried up put together lol. Believe it or not I haven't looked real close just have been researching that mark off and on over the years. And Vern finds the info in day lol great! I will see about getting some pictures up.

Thanks all! Much appreciated! Best!

Here are a few and will put more up later. Notice the 4th style Eickhorn crossguard. And late dated 1943, hard to find and brass based. I can't read the name above the date Thanks

backside picture

Hi Mikee
Can't see the name or date on either of those beautiful army's.

Gary

Hey Gary

I will get more pics up shortly. Gary how is Bill doing? Don't hear from him anymore,please let him know I wonder about him often and hope he is well. Thank you

What I recall is, because this is years ago now. At first he did want money,not much at all, then I offered a price which wasn't much, but then he said he didn't want any of it and gave it to me.

I contacted the company. They did not like their company mark on a blade like this. Can't blame them really.

Gary,
Here is the 1943 date, but the name is very hard to read. I might try a rubbing or isn't it done with a certain type of light? The granate mark is under the front of the crossguard, it's not east to photograph but I will keep trying.