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Thank you, Wotan. I am liking this etch more and more.

As I said above, I did find a reference of a sale item, a photo album for Unterstab I, AR 33. I also saw references to Unterstab in some articles on very early 1900s military formations.

John


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Here is a 1681 pattern honour bayonet. It has the rarely found double oval serrated tail with no CE maker mark and is known to us with a presentation etch in the catalogue and in Wayne's book.

However, this example has a beautiful plain blade with the engraved pommel and crossguards.

John

Obverse.JPG (42.39 KB, 211 downloads)
Reverse.JPG (41.76 KB, 211 downloads)
TM dbl serr No CE.JPG (40.69 KB, 210 downloads)
Obverse Grip.JPG (42.48 KB, 209 downloads)
Reverse Grip.JPG (43.15 KB, 210 downloads)
Obverse Pommel.JPG (48.55 KB, 209 downloads)
Obverse Crossguard.JPG (46.35 KB, 208 downloads)
Pommel Front Side.JPG (47.61 KB, 209 downloads)
Pommel Top.JPG (43.38 KB, 210 downloads)

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As usual, John, you come with some very cool and desirable items.

Thanks for posting.

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Beautiful piece

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hi john z
the last dress bayonet you call honor bayonet thats a killer piece and reminds me of the one i found for a dear friend of mine same oak leafed pomel and cross guard had the hj diamond in the handle i think that bayonet was called the hitler youth leaders honor dress bayonet not sure if it was Eickhorn or what maker it was but the workmanship was surperb and i never seen another one and thats atleast twenty five years ago john both of these bayonets are certainly the cats meow and scarce as hens teeth and hens dont have any teeth god bless thanks for showing these rare to find bayonets keep up the great work god bless andy militarynut

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Thanks guys.

I call it an honour bayonet since that is the description in the Eickhorn catalogue, 'Ehrenseitengewehr'.


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Those "Ehrenseitengewehre" are very rare and do "normally" come with stag grips. Such one with the black backelite grips now must be at least 10-50 times more rare than the "normal" variant. Never have seen one before. Nice!

@Militarynut: These socalled and very rare "HYouth leader honor dress bajonets" (up to now we collectors do not know what they really were) with the pommel ETCHINGS - NO engraving like the bayonet shown here (etchings in three variants) are a total other kind of edged weapon. These do not have the groove for rifle mounting real bayonets do have and their origin has been trench knives. Contrary to these (real) bayonets shown here.

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wotan, gd.c-b#105

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I have already shown you pictures of my bicycle battalion etched bayonet (Radfahr Batt. 1 Tilsit) and, thanks to a tip from Mat J on this very forum, I managed to get this small photograph of a bicycle troop dated 1940 (I think). I found it on fleabay and it really goes well with the bayonet.

Enjoy,

John

Obverse Etch and Photo.JPG (35.99 KB, 110 downloads)
Reverse Etch and Photo.JPG (33.65 KB, 110 downloads)
Obverse Photo Closeup.JPG (40.7 KB, 111 downloads)
Reverse Photo Closeup.JPG (36.62 KB, 110 downloads)
Photo.JPG (41.21 KB, 111 downloads)
Reverse.JPG (35.09 KB, 110 downloads)
Reverse Bottom.JPG (34.95 KB, 110 downloads)
Reverse Photo Closeup.JPG (36.62 KB, 110 downloads)

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John, this is exactly how I hoped it would turn out. This looks absolutely great. I'm glad you picked this up!! Just high class all the way my friend.

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Just arrived is this short blade, double etched artillery bayonet.

The obverse sports the 3221 artillery etch with cannon at the front. The reverse sports the rare horse drawn artillery pattern 3228.

Great to have added to my collection,

John

Obverse.JPG (31.08 KB, 56 downloads)
Reverse.JPG (31.41 KB, 56 downloads)
TM.JPG (43.09 KB, 56 downloads)
Obverse Etch.JPG (34.44 KB, 56 downloads)
Obverse Etch Front 3221 art.JPG (39.08 KB, 56 downloads)
Obverse Etch Mid.JPG (35.61 KB, 56 downloads)
Obverse Etch Rear.JPG (33.76 KB, 56 downloads)
Reverse Etch 3228 horse art.JPG (34.39 KB, 56 downloads)
Reverse Etch Front.JPG (36 KB, 56 downloads)
Reverse Etch Rear.JPG (35.16 KB, 56 downloads)

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I have been looking for an artillery pommel etch for quite a while. I was happy to find this and it also has the artillery cannon 3221 blade etch as a bonus!

This has a short single etched blade.

Enjoy.

Obverse.JPG (34.33 KB, 78 downloads)
Reverse.JPG (30.79 KB, 78 downloads)
TM.JPG (44.86 KB, 78 downloads)
Pommel Etch Artillery.JPG (42.01 KB, 78 downloads)
Obverse Etch 3221.JPG (36.64 KB, 78 downloads)
Obverse Etch Front.JPG (45.1 KB, 78 downloads)
Obverse Etch Mid.JPG (45.85 KB, 78 downloads)
Obverse Etch Rear.JPG (36.78 KB, 78 downloads)

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Once again, you have found a beauty.
That pommel is super.
Congrats
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Agree! How he gets this stuff is beyond me but he sure hits the bulls eye.

And his photography is great!

Dave

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Thanks, guys.

I owe much of what I find to my many friends here on GDC and in the collecting community. Many eyes out there helping me out over the years.

I think that I got the tip on camera here on GDC, a Sony Mavica. Old technology, but it takes really good closeups and produces images less than 50KB so they can be posted on any website and look fine on most computer screens.

Stay safe,

John


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Here is a gulls pommel etch (not shown in the catalogue) on a long single etch blade with the Luft eagle blade etch.

Obverse.JPG (31.3 KB, 61 downloads)
Reverse.JPG (30.76 KB, 61 downloads)
TM.JPG (36.52 KB, 61 downloads)
Obverse Hilt.JPG (33.81 KB, 61 downloads)
Pommel Etch Gulls.JPG (33.14 KB, 61 downloads)
Obverse Etch.JPG (35.03 KB, 61 downloads)
Obverse Etch Front Luft Eagle.JPG (34.47 KB, 61 downloads)
Obverse Etch Mid.JPG (34.62 KB, 61 downloads)
Obverse Etch Rear.JPG (33 KB, 60 downloads)

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And, this is a gulls pommel etch on a short single etched blade with the gulls luftwaffe motif.

There are some hilt issues, especially around plating lift, but, what the heck, the etches, pommel and blade combination make this a worthwhile addition to the Great White North collection.

J

Obverse.JPG (32.1 KB, 61 downloads)
Reverse.JPG (31.61 KB, 61 downloads)
TM.JPG (33.36 KB, 62 downloads)
Obverse Hilt.JPG (35.41 KB, 62 downloads)
Pommel Etch Gulls.JPG (34.58 KB, 62 downloads)
Obverse Etch Gulls.JPG (34.89 KB, 62 downloads)
Obverse Etch Front Gulls.JPG (44.48 KB, 62 downloads)
Obverse Etch Mid.JPG (42.92 KB, 62 downloads)
Obverse Etch Rear.JPG (36.56 KB, 62 downloads)

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I now own 6 pommel etched Eickhorn bayonets:

- the artillery etch on a 3221 artillery blade etch short
- the eagle pommel etch on a plain short
- the crossed rifle infantry etch on a 3220 infantry blade etch long
- gulls luft pommel etch on a luft eagle blade etch long
- gulls luft pommel etch on a plain blade short stag grips
- gulls luft pommel etch on a luft gulls blade etch short

In the hunt for the airplane luft, the flak gun and the panzer pommel etches.

John

Pommel Etch Artillery.JPG (42.01 KB, 60 downloads)
Obverse Pommel.JPG (34.96 KB, 61 downloads)
Pommel Etch.JPG (37.19 KB, 61 downloads)
Pommel Etch Gulls.JPG (33.14 KB, 61 downloads)
Pommel Etch Luft Gulls.JPG (32.72 KB, 61 downloads)
Pommel Etch Gulls.JPG (34.58 KB, 61 downloads)

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John,
Very nice and incredible Eickhorn's baios collection..
I have an Honour baio with some differences :
- the grip is fitted with bakelite grip plates.
- the blade is plain.
- and the squirell is the late one which is "looking over the shoulder"..

I'm also aware of a "classic" honour bayonet IE with horn grip plates and etched blade with a dedication of the 5th Police unit in München, and of course the "Anton Schweyer München" engraving on the spine.
As I have difficulties to attach pics, I can be reached on my e-mail : pat_bordes@yahoo.fr to send them to You directly if You desire
Regards,
Patrick BORDES
FRANCE.

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Patrick:

I have a plain bladed, bakelite grips with a double oval serrated tail squirrel maker mark on an honour bayonet.

Obverse Plain.JPG (30.58 KB, 34 downloads)
Reverse.JPG (30.74 KB, 34 downloads)
TM dbl serr No CE.JPG (29.85 KB, 34 downloads)
Obverse Grip.JPG (32.64 KB, 33 downloads)
Obverse Pommel.JPG (41.34 KB, 33 downloads)
Pommel Front Side.JPG (40.85 KB, 33 downloads)
Obverse Crossguard.JPG (39.88 KB, 34 downloads)
Pommel Top.JPG (32.44 KB, 34 downloads)

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Hi John,
LOL it's the contrary that would have been surprising..
MY plain bladed baio is not as nice as Yours, and no comlete but it bears the late Eickhorn trade mark..

You have an incredible collection, certaintly the biggest one in the wrld..Congrats for sharing Your treasures..
have a nice day,
Regrads,

Patrick
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