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I am putting together a photo file of Rohm SS dagger inscriptions by maker. So far, I have 9 different as follows-

Boker (small mark)
Eickhorn (large mark/smooth tail, small mark/smooth tail, small mark/serrated tail)
Hammesfahr
Herder
Klaas (large mark, small mark)
Kober

I would like to see a photo of any other makers you may have. Also, does anyone have an Eickhorn Rohm with the large mark and serrated tail?

Here are the 3 Eickhorn photos that I have (click on the photo to see the full size image) ...

Here are 3 more - Boker, Hammesfahr, and Herder).....

And the last 3 I have - Klaas and Kober ........

Vern
Very nice, looks to me like the Eick's have it.
But, they are all nice.
Thanks
Ed

In a word....wow !

also excellent photos

is The Kober a partial Ground ?

thanks for posting

Thanks. I'm working on something similar for the SA daggers

I am really glad to see that Kober Rohm dagger.

I have one that is shown in TW's book and for quite a while it was the only known example.

Great info thanks for sharing

Yes the Kober is a name only grind and polish

Thanks Vern, are these from one collection? I hate to say it, but several of these have bad inscriptions, some appear to have "Ernst Rohm" added?

Not from a collection. They are either photos taken at shows or from dealer listings.

Hi Vern ,

good idea , I will be a faithful "customer" for all your informations !

S+

I have 16 makers who produced Rohm etched SA daggers and will start posting the photos tomorrow. These photos are primarily to show the maker's mark used and it's positioning on the blade for each maker. Some makers used the same mark on both Rohm and non-Rohm daggers while others either moved the mark closer to the crossguard or used a smaller mark. Authenticating a Rohm etch should be done with the dagger in hand as focus, lighting, and angle can effect the photo image.

Here are the first 6 makers of SA daggers with the Rohm etch (3 marks for Eickhorn).....

And here are the next 10 makers of SA daggers with the Rohm etch.......

Thanks go out to a forum member for the photo of a complete Rohm inscribed Wusthof SA dagger with small trademark

And just to complete the etched series, here is a Himmler. Carl Eickhorn was the only maker, and this is the only correct original maker mark.....

Don't forget the bushy tail Himmler by Eickhorn

Opps

You mean this one.....

Jawol herr Oberstforumfuhrer !

Happy Thanksgiving too

Dave

And a Happy Turkey Day to you and yours!

For ease of viewing, all the above photos have been loaded into a gallery in the 3rd Reich Daggers & Swords thread of the GDC Reference Gallery. The gallery is named "SA/SS Rohm Dagger Makers".

A very rare version of the Himmler Honor SS dagger came with Eickhorn's large oval trademark as well.

And there are some extremely rare "Christmas" SA and SS M33's which bear the Rohm dedication by both Pack & Eickhorn edged weapon firms.

JR is correct, as usual

The SA prototypes or "Christmas Daggers" were ALL full Rohms.

The EP&S examples carried the well-known EP&S logo set close to the crossguard. The one below is currently for sale by TW.

Note: I have altered the contrast to make the trademark more visible but the grind marks look worse.

Dave

The Eickhorn "Christmas Daggers" used the older single oval trademark.

The example shown below is from a French Reference book. Sorry for the poor pics

Dave

JR,

You mentioned "And there are some extremely rare "Christmas" SA and SS M33's which bear the Rohm dedication by both Pack & Eickhorn edged weapon firms."

I'd love to hear more about the SS "Christmas" dagger

Thanks

Well, JR sure does know his SS daggers.
I was lucky enough one day to see a bunch of them in a JR SS dagger lesson. WOW!! was that something I will never forget.
All dagger dealers should take lessons from JR and Kris on how to treat potential customers and collectors, the hobby would be better, and larger.
One thing odd though?!** He kept his sweetest SS out in the garage covered with a blanket??? Go figure?
Ed

Here are the 2 Eickhorn daggers with the early motto.....

Would like additional info on the large trademark Himmler. I've only seen 2 and after in hand examination, both were bad. And here's an early Pack.....

And a supposed SS version.....

I can show the large oval himmler and pack SS christmas dagger with the rohm just send me a PM or email.

And an Ed Wusthof with the large trademark