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Don, an interesting set with the central device staying bronze through all the grades.

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Yes Joe, I assumed that the bronze would be the same all over rather than just the centre. However as none of the Tiroler collectors that I know had seen one I couldn't be sure until I found one.

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Don, sure is interesting! I don't believe I have come across these. I was off this site for awhile so I have to catch up and go through all these old threads.

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Thank you again Mikee. Indeed I do believe that this area is underrated, especially considering the rarity of some pieces. In some cases less than 100 badges were awarded at the events, although more must have been manufactured.

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For once a non Tirol piece!!!

This nice little badge came in with a group of Tiroler pieces that recently came in. As it's not in my collecting field it will need a new home at some point but I thought that I'd share it here while I still have it.

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Well, that is a bird of a different feather. Swas. date ranges it. Too bad they didn't put a specific date on it. Not unheard of by any means though. Wonder why they started to enhance the wing with a cut out then quit? I like the green enamel.
Great find Don.

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Thank you Joe, I'm glad that you like it.

I've been wondering about the cut as well. At one point I was thinking that maybe the finisher thought that the < shape should have been cut out & then realised that it was a ribbon running around the edge? We will never know.

One reason put forward for not dating some shooting badges was that it was cheaper. They could buy more, keeping the cost per piece down & use them for multiple shoots in different years. It could also be that this is a membership badge rather than a qualification badge, in which case no date would be needed....

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This week I have finally managed to complete my set from Bozen with the addition of the gold grade. This also means that my collection from the South Tirol is now complete, just the rest of the Tirol to find now :cry:

You will notice as mentioned before that once again to show the importance of this event in 1944 the badges were enamelled.... The badge depicts Walther von der Vogelweide, a composer & lyrical poet from the 12th century.


Hope that you like them.

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Wonderful, Don.

Congratulations.

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WOW! Don congratulations!

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Thank you Gentlemen...


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Another nice set Don. I imagine it took much searching to put it and the others together.
Thanks for sharing. It is greatly appreciated.

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Thank you Joe.

Yes, the silver Bozen badge was the first of the South Tirol badges that I came across around 10 years ago. It?s interesting that the gold badge was the last to find.


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This week I was able to add my first piece in almost 2 years & complete a group too! I finally managed to find a bronze grade Schwaz 1944....

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- yeah that Hessler piece with the dark green enamel is striking!


Well, you seem to be on a good run Don...

What most don't realize is that when trying to complete sets, etc. it can sometimes take years to finally find what you've been looing for! , Also to non collectors,,, the piece doesn't have to be some grand sized , super rare, $40k. piece.. Sometimes the simplest piece will make it like you found the $40k super piece!...

Keep up the good hunting,,and thanks for showing us these sets!...,G.

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Nice looking set Don.
1944 - are they hollow back or solid back?

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Thank you Gentlemen.

You are so right Gaspare, I still have groups that I have been searching for just one piece to complete them for over 15 years...... When I spotted the bronze Schwaz below, my heart skipped a beat as I couldn't believe my eyes....

Hollow back Joe.

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Digging about in my stickpin box I came across a couple of very small generic shooting pins. One in bronze for 1942.....

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And this one in silver for 1944...

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Don,

Another new style for me. Do not appear to be mass-produced. Some region's generic shooting badge? I will keep an eye out for additional award classes for you.

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Thanks Joe. I'd appreciate it, I've never seen any other examples, they are however shown in Hüsken's catalogue....

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Another pair of generic D.Sch.V stickpins from my box of delights. Like the previosu pins, I've no idea whether these were from a specific area or not, or whether they came in bronze & silver as well or just with & without wreath.
Someone at some point has tried to de-nazify the honour version as it is noticeably scratched around the Swastika area. I've never been able to upgrade it so it will do for now.

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Those are interesting Don. At least I've seen examples of them before. No maker marks I see.
The D.Sch.V. had quite a variety of badges.

thanks for showing them.

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Don, Very nice pins and badges

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Thank you Gentlemen. I'll have a dig about in my boxes & see what else I have.

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Here's one that I do not think I have posted anywhere before....

Oktoberfest Landesschiessen 1934 Gesellschafts Meisterschütze... Marked 800 on the reverse.

The OKtoberfest Landesschiessen held in Munich each year is still going strong today.

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Don, definitely one I have not seen before. Do I see a silver content stamp on a slightly concave upper reverse?

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"Oktoberfest Landesschiessen 1934 Gesellschafts Meisterschütze."

Dam,,, is that even listed in any reference books?!? grin

What a piece. Looks big too,,,and by that pin looks jeweler made.. Very Nice,,,thanks for showing Don..

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Thank you again Gentlemen. It's nice to see some of these again myself, I have had them in storage for a number of years....

Joe; Yes it's 800 marked.

Gaspare; I've never seen in any of the books either.... It's 1.5 inches top to bottom.

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Don,

That is one nice shooting medal.

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Thank you Mikee.

Gaspare; I was wrong when I said that I'd not seen it in a book. I was flicking through the last Hüsken catalgue yesterday, something that I haven't done in a while & came across it hidden away at the bottom of a page. It also shows the badge for the following year 1935, which I've yet to encounter....

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Correction, looking again I think it's the previous year, 1933....


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Agree it appears to be 33.
Wonder how many of these are squirreled away in old tinnie collections?

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Going trough some old images, discovered I have not posted these. 1941 WehrmannGewehr and a 1942 Wehrmann. Both gold with wreath.

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Very nice Joe!

Here is another tiny piece from the October Fest landesschiessen, this time from 1938.

Don

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smile Don, they had to abbreviate like crazy to get all that information on there. A good looking stick pin award. Different grades?

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Originally Posted by derjager
smile Different grades?

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Possibly, but I've ony seen them in gold...


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Here's a nice little pin that I recently came across, Burger Schützen Gesellschaft Göttingen, a shooting group who are still in existance today.... The pin is unmarked to the reverse.

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I wonder how many lapel pins were considered appropriate for wear at a given time? If indeed it mattered and one could wear as many at once as earned.
I recall a few period in-wear pictures of multiple lapel pins worn.

Nice piece Don. A lot of history behind that pin.

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Thanks Joe. I'm not sure that there were any regs when it came to civil type pins. I've seen images where they have their hats covered with pins....

Don


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