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Do we have a list of distributor marks specifically seen on Army daggers only.
I have William G?nther Dresden on an early Alcoso. Anybody got any others , trying to put a list together. So if you have can you let me know what distributor on what maker.
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Gary: I have 4 distributor marked Heers (all on Eickhorns, of course ) Durbeck, Wien Gebr Meyer, Munster H Mutz, Lingen William Gunther, Dresden All of them on the 35-41 seated squirrel marked Eicks. John
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We have 145 Distributor Marks in the Maker/Distributor Mark Gallery in the GDC Reference Library. Unfortunately, they are not identified by type of dagger
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Thanks John So now we have Durbeck, Wien on Eickhorn Gebr Meyer, Munster on Eickhorn H Mutz, Lingen on Eickhorn William Gunther, Dresden on Eickhorn, Alcoso
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Beautiful and rare ,very early Alcoso Gary. Did you find this beauty at a Kessel ?
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Hi Ivan
No I found this piece at the last SOS show in February, it is indeed of the earliest vintage.
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Gary
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Thanks to a tip from our very own Serge, a great friend and an awesome human being, I managed to find this distributor, A Kuhl of Munster-Essen, on a 35-41 maker marked Eickhorn Heer.
The hangers did not come with the dagger, but, thanks to Ivan, I put them on this piece.
So, here is my 5th distributor marked Eick.
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Interesting, John,
That dagger has a tapered tang when most with that trademark have rat-tail tangs.
Thanks for posting.
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I agree, definitely thought Eick would have moved away from the tapered tang before the '35-'41 mark came into use.
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I thought it weird as well, but there is nothing wrong with the blade or its markings.
Maybe, I should check my other distributor marked Eicks.
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There is a variant of DUERBECK s mark on a HOELLER dagger. For me a singn that at least several distributor marks have been applied "in house" as the EICKHORN variant of the DUERBECK mark also comes on bajonets (with nickled blade) and could not be applied after assembling. Our late member Ford Crews did find out that these interesting, after 1938 marked daggers have tapered tangs (I never have taken this dagger apart) and have a very distinct handciseling on the crossguard. Regards,
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Wotan:
I have looked at my five distributor marked Eickhorns.
All have the 35-41 seated squirrel mark.
Three have tapered tangs (the A Kuhl, the William Gunther and the H Mutz). The other two (and my distributor marked 2nd Luft) all have the stepped tang that we would expect on a 35-41 produced dagger.
Interesting.
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Wotan:
I have looked at my five distributor marked Eickhorns.
All have the 35-41 seated squirrel mark.
Three have tapered tangs (the A Kuhl, the William Gunther and the H Mutz). The other two (and my distributor marked 2nd Luft) all have the stepped tang that we would expect on a 35-41 produced dagger.
Interesting.
John Hi John, am I missing something here? you say all have the 1935-41 eickhorn logo, and you would expect a shouldered tang on a 35-41 produced dagger? Well initial production started in 1935 for the army daggers, and the tapered tang has been used at least up till the end of 1936. The aluminium type 1 Eickhorn guard comes with this 1935-41 logo, so they abandoned the oval logo very early after their first initial slants with type 1 guard. Ger
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I agree with Ger. The 1935-1941 has been used in combination with a tapered tang many times. Interesting is that in the early stage of production the type 2 Eickhorn crossguard has been seen with the first trademark (double oval) as well as the second trademark (the well known 1935-1941 logo).
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Just in (after some discussions with Canada Customs resulting in a $14 duty and customs clearance fee) is this Eickhorn Heer with the 35-41 seated squirrel TM and the Peter Kolb Amberg distributor mark.
Up to seeing this dagger on Tom Wittmann's site, I had only seen the Peter Kolb distributor mark on dress bayonets.
Enjoy,
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A beautiful addition to your collection John. When i saw that one i knew it should be in your collection, glad you could work it out.
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Thanks to my friend Janos, this new distributor marked Eickhorn Heer just arrived in Canada.
It has early fittings, a tapered tang, the 35-41 etched seated squirrel maker mark and a brand new, to me, distributor, Franz Spangemacher of Oldenburg.
Neat, eh?
John
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Never seen that distributor before, very nice, I wonder how many others are out there, not many I suspect. How many distributor marked army's does that make now mate.
Cheers
Gary
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Congratz John, a lovely addition to your collection! What makes this dagger even more interesting is the fact that its seems to have alluminium based fittings, on a type 2 i have never seen those before. So far i only saw the all aluminium type 1 ( guard, pommel and scabbard) and the Alu type 1 one with the same scabbard like yours.
Great to see whats beneath the surface!
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Thanks, guys.
This is my 7th distributor marked Eickhorn Heer.
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A great acquisition John. I don't think I've ever seen that distributor mark on any blade previously.
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A different version of this distributor is found in Fisher.
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Not listed in my version of Fisher, Schebben in Aachen was a uniform shop and sold this Eickhorn Heer. Not taper tanged with a 35-41 seated squirrel maker mark, not 'textbook' Eickhorn either, but a fine addition to its sister dstributors.
Thank you fdodge.
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Great example John! I see what you mean about it not being “textbook” but it does seem to have that look of being together for a very long time. I like it.
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Hey Guys,
I've been reading through this thread with great interest as I've just aquired my first Distributor marked army, and was wondering about something? Were distributor marked blades only on early daggers, or was this found to be the case throughout that period up to 42? The reason for my question is because there has been alot of talk about tapered tangs which we all know went to the end of 36, and as far as I've seen, not many daggers, if any, are out there with distributor marks on later period daggers?
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