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#339552 08/18/2018 10:05 PM
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I found this bowl in my father's desk after he passed away. I've had it 30+ years now and want to figure out what it is.

Height: 1"
Diameter: 2? "

Either Chinese or Japanese

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The inside has a 5 person scene in the middle and a whole series of scenes around the rim


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Close up of center scene

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The exterior has a myriad of butterflies plus decorative panels

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Markings on bottom:

Any ID or hints appreciated:

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hi dave
i am not an expert on these elaberate bowl and plate in my opinion its old japanese hand done painted then gold leafed all around bowl and plate this set you have is telling a story it tells me that posibly this woman on her knees is bearing a gift to possibly a new bride and the plate tells me that its family and possibly relitives the signiture appears japanese not chinese also the japanese were great with butterflies birds animals etc dont get me wrong i could be all wet its possible to be chinese if i was to guess on a year when it was made i would say 1920s 1930s it has age not new thats for sure it is a very fine piece of china and magnificently made if you look at the back ground the little white dots thats all hand done all most like japanese norataki china only difference the noritaki has raised dots not indentations you might have a winner here im sure some japanese man at the max can read the su=igniture for you and some can tell you what the story of this set means i have had and seen many of japanese sets like this over my fifty years collecting antiques i hope i have helped some what here god bless andy militarynut

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Andy,

I know nothing about these. Gaspare could have made them in NYNY for all I know.

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hi dave
this is still a very intresting bowl i will take a look at it if you want my opinion at the mighty max god bless andy militarynut

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Satsuma ware. Do an Internet search. Not top quality but far better than average! Artist signed can help if it's a know decorator

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yes Jareth and I made many of these when we were kids,,,usually samurai pieces! wink grin

This is Jareths forte! so whatever he says it is!..

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hi members
rest asure this bowl was not any of gaspares work or jareths probly like jareth says low end satsuma work i know they both are experts in thier field jareth excellant on japanese head gear hardly any one comes close to his expertise now gaspare is excellant and very experenced on his german third reich rings we all ways talk on these rings i hope that he doesnt think that he will beat me to the best rings at this years max show im a little slow now as im an old coot but i am fast on the floor god bless all andy militarynut

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The bowl signature appears to be "Kinkozan" and the style is called "Japanese Cloisonne".

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hi dave
kinkozan or japanese cloisonne i never heard of this terminonigy for japanese pottery but hey i could be wrong that just doesnt sit good with me neither is the name satsuma for this pot satsuma is a very unique works of art with thier beautifull painted dots well this is the best i can do at this moment have a great night god bless andy militarynut


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