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#336891 02/25/2018 06:27 PM
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Members I am so glad to be here I must say. This is my dilemma.....I have an HJ knife RZM 30 which according to assorted maker lists would be made by Gebruder Grafrath but mine says Grawiso Solingen. I add a scan of the marks of my knife. I do not have a camera but only a scanner. If more scans are needed let me know as I may be able to get some decent images. Thanks for looking. Regards Robert

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Gebr. Grafrath used "GRAWISO" as a trade mark on their HJ knives wink


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Thank You Vern This is a good thing to know. Relief for me. Regards Robert

burgerhaus #336897 02/25/2018 11:05 PM
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Glad to help wink


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Vern #336903 02/26/2018 12:37 PM
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Hello Robert,

As explained by Vern, your HJ-knife's blade markings are correct.

I would like to ask you if this "1936" marked HJ-knife, has the "Blut und Ehre!" etched on the obverse blade side?

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Herman

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Herman There is no trace of any motto that I can see. I'll try at some point to scan the entire knife to show but to the naked eye no motto. Regards Robert

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Hello Robert,

Don't worry about it, it is something very typical about these "Grawiso" and "G. Grafrath" HJ-knifes: most are marked "1936", but you find them with and without the motto. This is most unusual but these are all original.

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Herman Would some be marked grawiso then or G. Grafrath sometimes? Thanks for your help. Regards Robert

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Yes, that is correct, Robert.

There are also early HJ-knifes, without RZM mark, only "Grawiso" marked. (see picture)

Best regards,

Herman

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Great Info. Thank You Sir.

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Mine is also an early Blut und Ehre etched Grawiso without RZM....
Grawiso is a combination of the Grafrath brothers, Solingen-Widdert (which is the locality):

GRA WI SO

Many companies did this, for example Arthur Schuttelhofer, Solingen: ASSO
Artur Melcher, Solingen: ARMESO

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I need to thank everyone for their help. Basically these are abbreviations of the makers name and locale. Makes perfect sense to me. Regards Robert

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Check out the side bar on the right ...GDC reference library > http://www.germandaggers.com/Gallery/Makers.php maker distributor marks

Some producers but not all of them practice the abbreviated logo

Regards Larry


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