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I like wide AND concave... but I might be interested in the new version as well.
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Originally Posted By: Christian76
The left one looks great, more like the original.
When can i order it wink

You can order it right now. Dies are ready to work.


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Hap,,, your last photo [319844 ] ,,the ring on the left,,,is that the large or small skull?

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small skull


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Originally Posted By: Byzanti
Good luck Alex!


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Absolutely, please do! Highly interesting, this!


The wait is over! A disappointing enough answer, but enough to go on I think.

In typical German fashion the record offices for the Wehrmacht and SS were completely independent entities and near the end of the war the SS record office was destroyed (reoccurring theme), the information I was given are only fragments of the original record and among the things missing is the service picture and indeed his whole identification book! frown

Hartwig Friedrich Badenhop, born on March 17th 1909 in Kirchlinteln was assigned indentification number "-A492- Fl. H. Kdtr. Rotenbg./Hann.".

His last official transfer of employment on record is dated June 12th, 1940 to Fliegerhorst-Kommandantur Rotenburg/Hannover. In a list for worker labor distribution his job title and function are not specified.

Further, the documents I received also make mention of an unknown "Einberufung in die Waffen-SS". My understanding of the exact meaning of that field is blurry, and I can't tell if that simply means they don't have record of his rank there, or if it refers to a more specific duty/call-up purpose.

On March 19th 1945 at 11:00AM while serving with the SS in the Bachem district of Merzig, Saarland; Hartwig was found dead outside the hunting lodge in the Drwiesenkopf (=capital/administrative?) district.

Although it was less than I was hoping for after waiting almost a year; I think there might be enough to go on to mount a more in depth investigation. As a small bonus; since they couldn't provide me with much information the WAST waived the usual 40 euro processing fee, generous for a government organization of any kind! Imagine must what have originally been available on record!

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Alex- 1. Thank u for the work and sharing the results! To be honest, that's not too bad IMHO in terms of information found! (Really- so many people know so much less about individuals they want to know more about!) 2. I think it leaves a door open with clues that might show up elsewhere! I know of someone who found enough info on a loved one that they found his identity disc/dog tag for sale at a militaria show!!) 3. And u saved 40 euros! Heck, in our hobby u got a nice enough free wound badge for that amount!!
Thank u for sharing and good luck! Hopefully some more turns up-
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Hello everybody, I am new here, and first of all I wish you a merry christmas.
I am sorry for my bad use of english, but as you can guess... it's not my native language.
I found this forum while doing researches for a gift, as my husband and I are very passionated about history, and then I found this place, with all these expert people.
I did order a ring for my husband from Hapur, as I saw the masterpieces he is able to do. I think he is a true artist, and I cant wait to see the result.

Well, again best wishes to you all, and thank you for accepting me in this community.

best,

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Building another one in gold smile

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Gold HR, might be interested in that


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With how much content?


�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder
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This one on pic is 14k. Lately I was asked to make them in 18k and white gold and in platinum also.


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Originally Posted By: hapur
This one on pic is 14k. Lately I was asked to make them in 18k and white gold and in platinum also.


Very nice , Look forward to some progress pictures

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If i understand right, you make your rings on order in every alloy?


�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder
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Hap,,please, when your finished and get the chance we'd all love to see the gold version!

Also,,with your silver alloys,,,are you just using sterling?
OR, are you using 800/835? and IF you are can you buy the bullion like that [800 and 835]? or are you doing the alloy yourself?
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Mostly I do use sterling. If customer wants I can use 800 or 835 or any other alloy. I do make alloys myself. Most interesting was order to make TK ring from silver 5 mark coins.


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Few more almost finished. Hardest part was getting patina on gold. As you do know gold does not oxidize. But if customer wants patina I have to get it, customer always right smile

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Looks awesome...

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wow looks nice in gold , superb

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just noticed,,to RFSS from AH himself! excellent! You could have done that even for Ottos! wink
Bravo!! the AH sig engraving came out really good!

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Very nice!!

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Hapur have you got any pics of the platinum, and white gold HR rings ?

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No, I didn't make pics, they looked almost same as in silver, just heavier.


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Difference in Patina worn and unworn.
Both examples made by Hapur.
PS these are from Silver, not white gold...

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Nice rings!

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You wear two of them on one finger?
just kidding smile


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Originally Posted By: Mike (aka Byzanti)
Nice rings!

Thanks Mike! :-)
The bottom one I wear every day...

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Originally Posted By: hapur
You wear two of them on one finger?
just kidding smile

Yeah I know: I took the 3rd one off for the photo.. ;-)
No, you'd LIKE to wear them all at once they're so cool! :-D
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Originally Posted By: hapur
Building another one in gold smile


Is this done to satisfy buyer demand?

Wish I could recall where I read Himmler thought gold represented jewry.

Also didn't norse legend Thor possess a silver ring that tied in with truth and the mythology of the sshr.

Again, just hearsay and something read along the way.Whether theres anything to it I'm not sure.

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Yes, this is done to satisfy buyer demand. Did not ask what are the reasons for that.


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here is my repro, what I wearing by 20.4.37

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E. , that is a really nice copy too! I know you have been planning/ thinking about it for years,,it came out great,,congrats...


So members,,there are many copy HRs out there..
I'm proud to say we have 2 advertised here that are the absolute 2 best out there!. Hapurs and Evgeniys...

So you check them out, weigh the pros and cons of each and what fits your needs and make your order... Good work guys!....,G.

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G., thank you for your kind and good evaluation of my work !
I would have done with a great interest another copy of the year 44, I consider this design to be the best in the rings of the 40s model, but I do not have the original, for its reproduction, it may be when it happens )))

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Hello friends!
It is several year, that I was going to learn how to make a wax sample, then cast it and so on. I was going to learn how to make one for myself. It was a dream for about 10 years for me to have a good replica, at least. And suddenly I found Hapur's perfect replicas! It got tear to my eyes! wink I am going to order mine as soon as I measured my finger size. Thank all of you for the review.
I think the most important thing is that he makes them in the same way that the original rings were made.
Thank you Hapur!

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And I have to add that the wider more concave version, with the small skull is the most correct version. What do others think?

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Sorry, meant less wider...

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Welcome to the forum Eshagh.. Yes Hap makes a very nice copies,,and the proper way on period equipment! [I like the less wide one too]...

Have you made wax models of things before? or make a casting? Do you collect rings? or any military in general?..,G.

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Thank you Gaspare!

Yes indeed, Hapurs TK rings and the best replicas available overall.
No I didn't even give a try to make a wax model or something, I don't do jewelry at all, nor I'm not a professional collector, but I'm interested in such stuff, specially If they are not too expensive! This ring looks really amazing. I like the mysterious shapes and the contrast made by petina on sterling silver.

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Although I like Evgeniy's ring too, but Hapur's technique of making them, makes me more interested in his rings. I used to believe the original rings were make by was, until I saw Hapurs website. But I am just wondering did he made the die himself?

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here my works
I personally do not care about the method of production, in my opinion quality and authenticity with the original ring is more important, and my work is 100% authentic.

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Evgeniy,,,, thanks for posting your new rings! They are on some sort of Russian photo hosting site. Maybe they will disappear after a while [?]

anyway,, I will repost they again... They really are some beauties!! yes some care about how they are made. Some want the early pattern, or late. but yours really are some NICE looking HRs. Very close to the real thing!

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