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Hi guys.

It's been a long time since my last posting, so I thought i might show you my latest catch.

Bought this Luftwaffe Flieger Visor Cap today. Unfortunatly I will have to wait another week or so before I recieve it, or can provide better pics.....hope you like it.

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Amazing......still no comments!

Sorry I did not respond quickly enough to apease you. Some of us work to afford our goodies. Nice cap. Is the color gone from the roundel or is it just the picture, the roundel looks all black.
Harry

What makes this a "pilot cap ?

this piping is for "flight" personnel,,,aviators or paratroopers

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Originally posted by ssfeldgendarme:
Is the color gone from the roundel or is it just the picture, the roundel looks all black.
Harry

I believe the color is gone, but I cant tell for sure untill I've recieved it.....

So it isn't necessarily a "Pilots" cap. A member of a flight crew would wear yellow also ?
What color did ground crew wear ? I remember the guards in the "Great Escape" wore both yellow and red piping.

Congrats my friend

Looks nice,waiting for the new pics

Easy my friend, looks like the cap is a fake!

The chin strap is not the proper one for a Luft NCO visor. The one on this cap is the type found on political/cival type visors.

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New information brings new hope.

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Some info:

The stamp mentions Fl.H.K. Wunstorf which is the Fliegerhorstkommadantur or Air Field Station Command at Wunstorf. http://www.relikte.com/wunstorf/index.htm

So the cap belonged to a member of the ground staff of the air field....he could well have become a pilot later in the war but at the time of issue not.

Comments will be highly appreciated!

Hi this is a very strange post thus far.. .in reference to the viusor pictured...although the chinstrap is not the type typically found on the vast majority of Luftwaffe NCO visors it is a type that was used by some makers and is encountered rarely on some visors...I see no red flags that would indicate that this is not a period piece...appears to be by a rather obscure manufacturer as well...nice cap...also all aircrew wore this piped visor...not just pilots .cheers, Ryan

Private purchase, or small 'official' contract for the base personnel, utilizing a local maker perhaps?

Thats what I'm thinking too!

Thanks a lot for comments guys, this is now on its way to me.

Hat is good--appears to be a cottage maker. Heer straps on LW and LW on Heer are common.
Note the rarely seen method of affixing the lining directly to the pasteboard. I like it.

In regards to Crowback's question, Luftwaffe ground personnel often did double, triple and quadruple duties, other than their assigned 'official' duties.You might see black piped engineering troops guarding bases, mixed in with the red waffenfarbe of the Flak artillery branch.

Later on in the war, as the Luftwaffe air arm diminished, surplus to needs ground and flight crews were pressed into the infantry role, and of course many were free'd up to administer and guard the POW camps...

This would also be worn by FJ members!
Bob

Very cool hat my friend.

Its may be a not common maker ?

Congrats a lot.

LH

Thanks a lot LH, and thanks to all for helpfull comments.

If I'm not mistaken pilots could be noncoms (especially in the Stuka?) and not just commissioned officers. Similar in RAF.

Interesting cap and informative discussion and photos!

Congrat`s my friend

Glad it is original,and it looks like it is of a not common maker