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#33648 08/13/2009 08:09 PM
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Hi guys.

It's been a long time since my last posting, so I thought i might show you my latest catch.

Bought this Luftwaffe Flieger Visor Cap today. Unfortunatly I will have to wait another week or so before I recieve it, or can provide better pics.....hope you like it. Smile

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#33652 08/13/2009 08:11 PM
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#33653 08/14/2009 10:44 AM
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No comments? Confused


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#33654 08/14/2009 10:25 PM
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Amazing......still no comments!


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#33655 08/14/2009 11:06 PM
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Sorry I did not respond quickly enough to apease you. Some of us work to afford our goodies. Smile Nice cap. Is the color gone from the roundel or is it just the picture, the roundel looks all black.
Harry

#33656 08/15/2009 12:18 AM
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What makes this a "pilot cap ?

#33657 08/15/2009 11:14 AM
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this piping is for "flight" personnel,,,aviators or paratroopers

#33658 08/15/2009 11:44 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by ssfeldgendarme:
Is the color gone from the roundel or is it just the picture, the roundel looks all black.
Harry


I believe the color is gone, but I cant tell for sure untill I've recieved it.....


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#33659 08/15/2009 12:59 PM
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So it isn't necessarily a "Pilots" cap. A member of a flight crew would wear yellow also ?
What color did ground crew wear ? I remember the guards in the "Great Escape" wore both yellow and red piping.

#33660 08/17/2009 05:26 PM
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Congrats my friend Smile

Looks nice,waiting for the new pics Wink


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#33661 08/17/2009 05:46 PM
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Easy my friend, looks like the cap is a fake! Red Face


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#33662 08/17/2009 05:53 PM
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The chin strap is not the proper one for a Luft NCO visor. The one on this cap is the type found on political/cival type visors.

#33663 08/17/2009 08:27 PM
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**** Mad


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#33664 08/17/2009 08:53 PM
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New information brings new hope.

Some more pics.

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#33665 08/17/2009 08:53 PM
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#33677 08/17/2009 09:01 PM
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Some info:

The stamp mentions Fl.H.K. Wunstorf which is the Fliegerhorstkommadantur or Air Field Station Command at Wunstorf. http://www.relikte.com/wunstorf/index.htm

So the cap belonged to a member of the ground staff of the air field....he could well have become a pilot later in the war but at the time of issue not.

Comments will be highly appreciated! Smile


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#33678 08/18/2009 02:29 AM
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Hi this is a very strange post thus far.. Confused.in reference to the viusor pictured...although the chinstrap is not the type typically found on the vast majority of Luftwaffe NCO visors it is a type that was used by some makers and is encountered rarely on some visors...I see no red flags that would indicate that this is not a period piece...appears to be by a rather obscure manufacturer as well...nice cap...also all aircrew wore this piped visor...not just pilots .cheers, Ryan

#33679 08/18/2009 03:13 AM
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Private purchase, or small 'official' contract for the base personnel, utilizing a local maker perhaps?

#33680 08/18/2009 07:48 AM
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Thats what I'm thinking too!

Thanks a lot for comments guys, this is now on its way to me. Smile


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#33681 08/18/2009 06:43 PM
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Hat is good--appears to be a cottage maker. Heer straps on LW and LW on Heer are common.
Note the rarely seen method of affixing the lining directly to the pasteboard. I like it.

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In regards to Crowback's question, Luftwaffe ground personnel often did double, triple and quadruple duties, other than their assigned 'official' duties.You might see black piped engineering troops guarding bases, mixed in with the red waffenfarbe of the Flak artillery branch.

Later on in the war, as the Luftwaffe air arm diminished, surplus to needs ground and flight crews were pressed into the infantry role, and of course many were free'd up to administer and guard the POW camps...

#33683 08/21/2009 02:39 AM
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This would also be worn by FJ membersSmile!
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#33684 08/22/2009 08:48 AM
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Very cool hat my friend. Cool

Its may be a not common maker ?

Congrats a lot.

LH

#33685 08/23/2009 02:43 PM
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Thanks a lot LH, and thanks to all for helpfull comments. Smile


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#33686 08/23/2009 09:58 PM
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If I'm not mistaken pilots could be noncoms (especially in the Stuka?) and not just commissioned officers. Similar in RAF.

Interesting cap and informative discussion and photos!

#33687 08/24/2009 06:04 AM
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Congrat`s my friend Smile

Glad it is original,and it looks like it is of a not common maker Cool


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