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#326943 03/03/2017 01:32 AM
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Hi guys today I was handed an Eickhorn Himmler from a well know and respected top European dealer it is an Eickhorn of course bench marked 2 cross guards internally marked H & E as one would expect my issues (1) gap and light visible between blade shoulders and lower fitting have seen better fit on 1942 Eickhorn RZM daggers (2) Solingen missing some letters in etch (seen on other fake Eickhorn daggers G O) (3) scabbard fittings have a yellow tint and dont match dagger fittings tone (4) blade tang has no billet clamp marks I dont have it yet but will eventually have pics to post any thoughts ??? cheers and thanks, Ryan

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run run away

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Ryan,

Please - pictures? Names?

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Hi Dave as I said I am awaiting the sending of pictures I am assisting a friend I have told them why I have issue with dagger as posted here. The dagger is not listed on a dealer's site and was not made available to the general public. It was/is a private deal. I have been asked for discretion so I will honor the request. My friend places a lot of stock in the seller's COA and reputation, I have never owned a Himmler, I have owned a few full Rohm SA and can identify an authentic inscription. I will post the images here when I receive. Dave should the fit and quality especially of the blade shoulders not be near perfect? Can you comment on the lack of billet clamp marks on the tang??? Thanks Ryan

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Hi guys shoud the fit of the blade shoulders to the lower fitting not be perfect, especially for an Eickhorn and especially for a Himmler? Can anyone comment on the billet clamp marks missing on the tang? I seem to recall that they are not always present. I recall that I almost always see them however on SS and SA cheers and thanks Ryan

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Himmler Honor daggers can exhibit minor imperfections which you mention, just like any other edged weapon produced during the 3rd Reich. No additional precision workmanship went into producing them, in lieu of the fact they were the Reichsfuhrer's personal presented daggers.

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Thanks JR I appreciate your comment I don't want to condemn a dealer if not necessary nor a dagger, it has been disassembled and the tone of the scabbard fittings dont match dagger perhaps mismatched the letters in Solingen missing in the trademark are a bit disconcerting for me I will forward you pics when I receive cheers and best, Ryan

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When 'respected' dealers ask potential customers not to show their recommended investment to anyone else for scrutiny, then I would get very suspicious.

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Hi guys the dagger came to a "friend" the dealer has not said anything my friend intends to send me pics for opinion. The dagger was shown to me and it has the "issues" that I mention here. This does NOT mean that it is not correct. I am not an authority on Himmler inscriptions. I know daggers so that is why I asked the questions that I did on this thread. Please, lets not jump to things thanks and cheers, Ryan

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Originally Posted By: Arminius
When 'respected' dealers ask potential customers not to show their recommended investment to anyone else for scrutiny, then I would get very suspicious.



DANGER, DANGER, DANGER..............................

Run the hell away...........

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Dagger is 100% period and authentic thanks for all cheers, Ryan

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Hi Ryan, if you finally get it... could you please post the pics here so we can see all that "imperfections" in a genuine dagger?

Would appreciate !

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I Wish i could take One...but One day...😁

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Originally Posted By: sellick8302@rogers.com
Dagger is 100% period and authentic thanks for all cheers, Ryan


Original, even with missing billet clamp tang marks ?

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Ive got it I will be taking it to the MAX show to show Tom J then Paul Hogle then will offer for sale here unless it sells at Max and I will price it to sell then I will post pictures but I have to purchase a premium membership. Ive been lucky I have yet to purchase a fake dagger in 35 years.....but I bought and read all of the "books" starting with Johnson's set and I have attended every Max and almost every SOS since 1994. I do my home work smile lots of handling at shows and lots of seminars in past year I have acquired mint NPEA leaders mint chained SS 2nd type both from Paul H mint tagged bagged Eickhorn RZM SS two Alcosso government leaders, two RLB leaders. One near mint Eickhorn full Rohm SA mint NSFK early fliers one mint social welfare with hangers one mint Red cross leader's with hangers one NPEA Plon student's dagger mint un issued Ed Wusthoff RAD em un issued RAD leader's Alcosso tagged , with 100% deluxe hangers and felt storage bad and about 12 SA/NSKK and a few Heer and Luft Ive been lucky cheers and best, Ryan


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