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Close up, not that it helps much. Smile
The bronze is a zinc base metal and my silver example is magnetic.
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Nice badges chaps.

Nope, no RADwJ in my collection. I've had a couple come with those groups of badges that I was lucky to pick up, but they have never been in the sort of condition to make me keep them....

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very nice badges,
some of them are on my list Wink

but for now i have purchased a very nice album

uniform pics, landarbeit, a trip on a boat, and six color cards, showing the arbeit mädels in color

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hi heres a few of mine

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3, not sure if this one is real

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4 this one has a replacement pin solderd on, and has marks were another pin was also soldered on

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5 has anyone ever seen the safety pin on this one before?

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5a rear

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photo 3 looks gold but has been polished by someone, if its given a quick rub its back to silver, photo 4 has a silver rim and a gold center, am still looking for the cap badge and the remaining female badges.

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Woody5909, I have seen similar locking devices before as on 5a reverse.

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Hello,
Fascinating thread and just a wealth of information. I have a couple of female RAD badges but never really had any idea if real repro or what. The first badge I have is what I thought to be a 2nd(?) pattern brooch. Always thought it was good but after reading this thread and that bronze versions may not have even existed. The piece is not flimsy or able to be bent easily. I attach a picture for confirmation on it being bogus. Also have what looks like a Long Service award,ribbon definately not original or the type used on this badge I think. I always thought that this most likely was not a good piece. Have attached a picture of this item also for comments and verification about it. Again fantastic thread with great info. It's nice to see items from organizations like this being discussed as opposed to the usual combat related discussions.
Thanks,
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Hello again,
Here's a pic of the Long Service award. I must say that without the internet and information gained from forums like this, one could really waste some good money on bad items. Thankfully most of the badges I have bought I paid very little for so even if fake I don't feel that bad compared to some of the stories I hear about. Again thanks to all for your help and a great thread.
Duzig(Bill)

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Reverse of award.
Thanks again
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Hello again,
For some reason I could not edit my last post and put this question in. It's not about badges though but here goes. What would be a fair price to pay for a Female RAD pennant? The type with the wheat husks and swastica? I see them on sites in the 250 to 350 range but they seem to sit unsold at that price. Thanks again
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Bill, to me both the badge and the medal appear good.
Is the badge gold or bronze? PuC is Paulman und Crone I believe.
Is the medal light weight? Probably aluminum? It's a valued piece.
Don't know what to tell you about the pennant.

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Hello,
Joe, thanks for your reply. The badge I always kind of thought was real, it had the same type of pin I've seen on some RAD badges before and the RAD & PuC on reverse with GES. Gesch I've seen before on other badges...but to me I would have to say the badge looks bronze to me,particulary the reverse. But unless I read the preceding info wrong it sounds as if maybe a bronze badge never existed. The medal I have no idea really. I wouldn't say it's lightweight in fact it's fairly heavy, it does have some tarnish on it so don't know whether it's silver or what. It's definately not aluminum though. Again thanks as usual for your help and info.
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Here's all of mine together.

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Kevin, nice fun display. Smile Thanks for showing the group. I imagine much went into assembling that many brooches.
Did you ever get an answer to the rank, border, color question?

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2) Good question. It could be put another way, "Did a plain border silver wearer outrank a braided bronze wearer"? Based on the quantity that I've seen for sale and the number of braided badges I've seen in photos in wear, I'd say that the braided brooches in any grade were fewer and harder to earn than the plain borders of grades (with the possible exception of gold). This raises a very interesting point. Maybe gold was "staff" and silver "camp staff" etc.

I'll try to find that out.
Now I'm curious.
I'll ask some heavy hitters.


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Greetings All,

Have very much enjoyed this topic on the RAD Weiblichen Jugend. As I recently obtained a 3rd pattern silver grade brooch, I thought I would add it to the thread.

If I understand correctly, this example was issued to a Maidensunterfuhrerin. I seem to recall the various grades being listed in Angolia's book, but I don't have the reference anymore.

This example is not maker marked on the reverse. There do not appear to be stamps or markings of any kind. Per some of the other examples shown, I gather this does not necessarily call authenticity into question.

The pin has been re-soldered, replaced, or both.

Thanks for looking. Any comments or questions welcome.

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Front of the badge. The appearance of a coppery sheen is because of the lighting. The item is silver in appearance. It is somewhat worn.

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And the back.. note the pin. As mentioned, no makers marks.

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I think you are correct on the grade. I'm not positive.

One of mine is unmarked. Are you sure your pin has been resoldered? It looks as though it was soldered on without a round pin retaining plate used.


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Thanks for your feedback!

Good observation regarding the soldered pin. Frankly, I'm not at all positive that it was resoldered, just assumed so because of the unusual format.

The way the pin is attached doesn't look as tidy as I would expect, but I haven't handled a lot of these.

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B.A.Vierling

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Any other examples of these badges to share?


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Hi! my Maidoberfuhrerin silver by Assman, Nice thread! full of accurate information as usual, regards

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Very nice conditioned piece. Good close up pictures.

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For any interested in these badges this is a very informative thread.

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yes, a super thread..

I might have something to add,,got to find it and I'll post..

Meanwhile,,I have these,,,Been looking to get these patterns for over 20 years! And,,both popped up in 2015!!

Hope we all have a good 2016!

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Gaspare,

Very nice. Got to be few and far between.

Thanks also for the vote of confidence.

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very nice thread. I am looking for a brooch like the one seen here. It is possible that these were also worn by RAD frauen but I'm not entirely sure of that.

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Ran across this interesting and informative thread and thought it deserving of being brought back to the top.
https://forum.germandaggers.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=328385&page=1

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I recently heard firstly through another collector, then from a thread on another forum that there was an earlier short lived form of the Deutscher Frauenarbeitsdienst shown in post #1. It was the Weiblicher Arbeitsdienst.

There are a few differences, firstly in the wording around the edge, "Weiblicher Arbeitsdienst" rather than "Deutscher Frauenarbeitsdienst" around the bottom. The Weiblicher Arbeitsdienst has a + symbol between the sentences rather than a "." as used on the Deutscher Frauenarbeitsdienst badges, & finally, the numbers on the reverse, the Deutscher Frauenarbeitsdienst always has the serial number below the pin, whereas on the Weiblicher Arbeitsdienst, the number is always above the pin.

Once I heard this I dug through my collection & found that without realising it, I had one of the Weiblicher Arbeitsdienst.

Firtly a side by side comparison of the two badges.

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And here is my badge, note the serial number (20) at the top of the reverse rather than at the bottom as seen on the Deutscher Frauenarbeitsdienst badges. It also has a name scratched into it, Ruth Woll.

Don

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