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I've got 3 like this

Mike, I have one identical to the one you show here! Same mark too I believe


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Thats a feat of collecting, 3! Outstanding, Lore!

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Just picked up this beauty from waf estand
My second of this exact pattern I really like them

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�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder
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Lol it sure is

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Hi Folks,

This is a picture of most of my skull rings. It's an older photo so it is missing a couple of more recent additions. Sadly, I lost one of these a week ago. I was wearing it and my finger must have shrunk in the cold outside at night watching the World Cup final. It fell off somewhere. The few beers under my belt probably didn't help either. Maybe it will turn up, Swiss people generally being honest. Even more ironic, I don't even like football!

Cheers,

Stephen

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Wow! Some real nice pieces in there Stephen, thank you for sharing! I have a real weakness for a nice skull so I see some rarer patterns and a tagged skull is the gold standard in quality and condition! So which one was lost? We can keep an eye out for it!

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What a great collection! You have a couple very interesting patterns there..

Do you clean them, ,or polish them?.. And, how do you keep them? in a case for rings? or something home made or??


IF you can,,when ever you have the time maybe you could show these 2 rings with the red arrow....., thanks..

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Gaspare that one on the right looks familiar pattern. Did we see one like that before?

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with red arrow? yes,,think I've seen before or have.

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Originally Posted by Mike (aka Byzanti)
Wow! Some real nice pieces in there Stephen, thank you for sharing! I have a real weakness for a nice skull so I see some rarer patterns and a tagged skull is the gold standard in quality and condition! So which one was lost? We can keep an eye out for it!

Hi Mike,

Thanks for the praise, I appreciate that. I have been collecting rings for years and it took some time... and some pain while learning. The one I lost is second back row, far right. It's small ring, probably for a pinky... although clearly too big for my pinky!

Best regards,

Stephen

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Originally Posted by Gaspare
What a great collection! You have a couple very interesting patterns there..

Do you clean them, ,or polish them?.. And, how do you keep them? in a case for rings? or something home made or??


IF you can,,when ever you have the time maybe you could show these 2 rings with the red arrow....., thanks..

Thanks, Gaspare. I am quite proud of my collection. When I started about ten years ago, I did clean a couple of them too 'enthusiastically' (for example, the big HJ Leiters ring that we discussed recently) but learned not to do that - My dealer friend yelled at me for cleaning them! Nowadays, I tend to just give them a light rub with a silver polish cloth to protect them from tarnishing.

Apart from a couple of skulls that I wear, I keep the rings in glass-fronted display cases. And I do display them on my bookshelf, sometimes much to puzzlement of friends wink

The picture here shows about half of my collection, including all of the skulls.

I will post pics of the two you asked about. Just need a bit of time.

Cheers,

Stephen

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NEVER polish them... but now you know.. At the most I used a little warm water, mild dish soap, and old tooth brush... Dry very well and in the case..

A wonderful collection,,,very nice!! Congrats,,,its a lot of hard work I know....,G.

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Originally Posted by Gaspare
What a great collection! ...
IF you can,,when ever you have the time maybe you could show these 2 rings with the red arrow....., thanks..

Hi Gaspare,

Here are the two rings you asked about. The grinning skull is obviously not silver. I have had it for years but have not seen another one like it. Interested in your thoughts, and those from others.

(Apologies for the orientation of the photos. This only happened when I uploaded them.)

Cheers,

Stephen

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Here is the other ring. I like this ring. It was ground dug in SS Nord positions on the Mannerheim Line on the Finnish border. It was found with a metal detector and is quite pitted. It's a heavy ring for its small size. There is a maker stamp (RP) to outside of the shank, but no discernible silver mark.

Hope you like it. S

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I had a pot metal one very similar to the first you show. Mine was I am about 99% certain just a toy ring or biker ring or premium ring. I believe I sold it in a bunch of toy skulls with some repro for not very much. Of course I am making no claims on your ring but mine was a very similar pattern. Second skull is interesting upon a closer look I think not the same as the one I have but still an interesting ring. I can not say I have seen one like it. I can see the RP. Is it an identifiable maker? Thanks for showing them!

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yeah I agree with mike..1st skull although cool looking isn't very old. The 2nd is old! Maybe older than WW2, either Finn or German had that on!

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Thanks, both. Appreciate your comments. I always wondered about that grinning skull myself. It wasn't expensive.

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I cant help thinking that our friend, Goetz, would be pleased that this thread is still alive...

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Without a doubt. I concur

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2nd row from bottom,,,3rd ring in,,,, IS that a Gegen Englland ring with a brass alloy cartouche and silver band?!?! I've never seen anything like that before!! Do you think its a good one? Have you've done any comparisons with known straight all brass alloy rings?

Please,,when ever you have the time,,,no rush,.
IF you don't mind maybe you could start a separate topic on that one!! * IF authentic thats a real stunner you sure would have!!!

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Ya that is an interesting ring I agree! I am also impressed with the Legion Condors, especially the two nearer the middle, never seen an oval cartouche one. Gorgeous! The ?wedding band? with luft insignia is interesting, and I love the DLV. That?s a beautiful early ring I think, really similar to the 30s deco SS enamels..Great condition on that!

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Originally Posted by Gaspare
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2nd row from bottom,,,3rd ring in,,,, IS that a Gegen Englland ring with a brass alloy cartouche and silver band?!?! I've never seen anything like that before!! Do you think its a good one? Have you've done any comparisons with known straight all brass alloy rings?

Please,,when ever you have the time,,,no rush,.
IF you don't mind maybe you could start a separate topic on that one!! * IF authentic thats a real stunner you sure would have!!!

Hi Gaspare,
The Gegen Engelland ring is silver in colour. I think the lighting in the photo you refer to wasn?t good so the cartouche looks like brass. I believe this ring is made of brass or a similar alloy with a silver wash. I will post better photos in a separate post.

Mike,
I will also post some photos of the Legion Condor rings. They are beauties and highlights of my collection. Also happy to post pictures of the other rings you mentioned. The DLV is indeed a beauty!

Cheers,

Stephen

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Hi Stephen am excited to see your DLV for sure -no Hurry though. Is that a Kirkenes ring I see with the blue and white enamel? That is a wonderful ring too. I know our friend gotz had a nice one too, not a common thing!

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Originally Posted by Mike (aka Byzanti)
Hi Stephen am excited to see your DLV for sure -no Hurry though. Is that a Kirkenes ring I see with the blue and white enamel? That is a wonderful ring too. I know our friend gotz had a nice one too, not a common thing!

Hi Mike,
I will post some pics of the DLV. It is a cracker! And, yes, that is a Kirkenes ring like the one Odal had. He really liked mine because it is in better condition than his. It is blue enamel and silver. Lovely ring.

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Have not added many skulls lately, but here is another example of a smashed skull pattern I already have. It is wonderful to be able to find one of a given pattern- just great and even better to have 2 of the same to compare! This one has a nice 835 and Laurin mark, very well made- hollow skull, small size- and from the side crushing- seems to perhaps been worn on the left hand with a wedding band doing the most damage, or similar ring finger ring. Love this one has so much detail, my other is smashed in the mouth!

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I think possibly early 20th century American or something else. Very light material, maybe a size 8-9, no markings- seller found it in Mexico looking just like this in the 1960s. Looks like the eyes may have held stones at one time. Whatever it is- I like the look!

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Mike,, you are absolutely right.. it is 20th cen. Call them what you will,,,'Mens rings' , Ice cream rings , Premium rings etc. I have a advert for this exact ring.

I strongly recommend 'Overstreets' book on Premium Rings. Probably very cheap used , $20 or so but very worth it. Shows all types including a couple swastika rings and a few of these skull types ,,,which were taken right from our collected German ring designs.. Happy hunting guys....

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I strongly agree, reference books are key to collecting - lets get ours rolling !

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Skullring: WW1, Freikorps? or Italian Black-shirts or??. ?

For a long time ago, I posted this ring in the forum. Maybe there is more info now.
Made of copper?.. it stays shiny ? maybe guilded .

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Hi Benten! Thanks for posting it again! I have not seen one like this-
Looks like a brass alloy cast piece to me, but I could not take a guess on the era or nation of manufacture. Maybe someone else here knows?
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a brass alloy , [maybe plated] tiny test scratch inside will tell you,,,but from rear behind skull signs of cast,,also on end of cross bones, and fault on band. Band also on the thick side even if a small size. . There is a early 3rd reich multi piece [skull & band] silver authentic version. Thin skull, thin [called split band type] band, usually in a small or childrens size.. There was or used to be a photo of it here..

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Mike, Gaspare, Thank you for your reply .

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Today I Found on the fleamarket, only the front of a skullring ( better than nothing smile The ring itselfves is probably used for something else.
Does someone have a picture of a complete ring ?

Thanks in advance !

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hi benton
yes skull is better then nothing it defenitly came from a ring thats for sure maybe gorilla face skull ring i dont know as far as the brass coated skull ring in my opinion i have to go along with gaspare most of this style skull rings were silvered but many years has passed probly all gone thank you for showing your tresures god bless have a nice day andy militarynut

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Interesting find, Benten! Cannot say I have ever found just a head! My guess, and again, just my guess and opinion- it appears to be a separately cast, then attached, piece. I would bet it is at least inspired, if not altogether copied, from a kantine ring. I think, however, it is likely a USA or other nation made early to mid 20th century piece- to be made into a mens premium ring or the like. * Of course I would be remiss if I did not mention that the entirety of my education on mens premiums and their kind was revealed to me through my questions to and knowledgeable answers by our esteemed and notable guru of all things ring based in this category- gaspare. I dont want our guru to be butthurt when reading this, thinking I came about my knowledge independently. Every field has its Expert of Experts!*

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hi mike
i remember back at i think the max or sos showc when you first showed the ss pimp your ss honor ring found in a pile of silver don the ss honor ring man found it real and certified it for you at that time the ss pimp and myself plus gaspar the ring garu seen how excited you was with joy that you continued to be top shelf at all third reich rings as far as bentens skull i think in my opinion it was a ring if you look carefully when benten is holding the skull back side on the right side looks like the shank of the ring was broken off who knows just another opinion plus its still a good find thanks benten god bless all andy militarynut

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I am and have always been that guy. I love to learn, I am the first student in my own -the one i teach in that is- classroom. Everyone learns in my room especially me. I might be a bit wiser about how the hobby works though now too, but that is probably also to be expected. That being said- I have a ton to learn and always will. As soon as you think you know it all, youre done. I dont however think who I am matters one bit to anyone here. My personal life, my spending habits, my family business- it is not for a one to comment on. How much I spend on a piece for example is no ones concern except mine. How much I sell one for etc same thing. The true failure and tragedy of the hobby is the effect money, jealousy, and greed have had on what would otherwise be decent people. Is it really that funny, how a new guy comes in excited and ends up jaded? I dont think so- I think its sad. I think that has loads to do with why this hobby is dying. Just my 2p-
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hi mike
sad to say but in my opinion you are right jeliousy/greed etc even when i had at one tiime 13 ss honor rings and may his soul rest in peace no names said on the forum where did you get so many ss honor rings i thought a bit and said easy i paid my hard earned dollars is this answer good enough to satisfi you no answer from him that stoped him next wise guy hey show me this items my reply was you might be talking to your father but not me i have allways met the chalange from wise guys jerks etc not in my world i have all ways called a spade a spade if you dont like it they sorry your not in my world mike it will work out go above these people the hobby is full of them last any one who asks me how much did you pay for it my answer is non of your damm bussiness whats the price have to with four tomatos ok mike have a great holiday god bless andy militarynut

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