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#323776 11/27/2016 06:46 PM
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My spiritual adviser and the greatest expert on SA daggers is on the lookout for this dagger for me, but i thought i would supplement hisw search with a post on the forum. Looking for a decent early Hack SA dagger to replace the one I have, which is pretty rough.


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Mike - There a "J. Hack" ??

Dave #323784 11/27/2016 10:30 PM
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Dave:

Josef Hack is a rare producer of SA's under the maker mark Hack-Werk Steyr.

I have two Luft2s by that maker.

John

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JohnZ #323793 11/28/2016 02:59 AM
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John,

Agree, they did make Luftwaffe daggers after Austria became part of Germany in 1938. Perhaps Army as well.

But they were not a maker of early, trademarked, SA daggers. Those stopped in 1936 or so.

Mark 1.JPG (102.92 KB, 183 downloads)
Dave #323801 11/28/2016 10:20 AM
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Here is another version of the Hack-Werk trademark, again on a Luftwaffe

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They made a transitional SA, and later an RZM SA, but I don't think that is what Mike is looking for

SA RZM 104 + Hack.jpg (47.98 KB, 173 downloads)
Hack 3.jpg (4.12 KB, 173 downloads)
Dave #323803 11/28/2016 10:37 AM
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John

Here is another shot of that first trademark,from another I took apart. If you need other component shots from that piece I can send them.

I thought I had pics of an Army Hack, but maybe not. Do you?

Dave

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Dave #323807 11/28/2016 03:37 PM
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Dave:

I have both versions you show on Luft2s (I collect Luft2s by maker mark variation). Both versions came from Bob Rodgers about 5 years ago.

John

TM 2.JPG (39.34 KB, 165 downloads)
TM 1.JPG (39.69 KB, 165 downloads)

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JohnZ #324136 12/05/2016 06:45 PM
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BTW, Dave, you show the TM of RZM 7/104, which is Zeitler Wien, whereas Hack is RZM 7/103.


John


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JohnZ #324146 12/05/2016 09:12 PM
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John, how many different 2nd Lufts by maker do you have? Mike

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Mike:

If I ignore my unmarked blade and my etched and Damascus and artificial Damascus blades and my post war B&A, I have 74 different maker marks on plain or plated bladed Luft2s.

And, I know that I still have more to find.

The are all here:

http://phpstack-500133-1583587.cloudwaysapps.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=21023#Post21023

J


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Wow, that's great- congratulations-Mike


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