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I have an Numbered ss dagger m 1933, all nickel fittings and nickel eagel, the blade has no maker mark, When the factory removed the R�hm inscription , often some of the makers mark remained on the blade. But where there earls 1933 daggers whitout makers mark? And did some maker erase both inscription and makers mark from the blade? In wittmans ss book he writes that some early blades had no mm
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Also Fisher speaks of M33 with no maker mark. I see them for sale from time to time.
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Does anyone has a pic of the grip on The Ss dagger made by 188/35? And Did 188/35 make daggers before The rzm period? My numbered ss dagger has The same motto as The 188/35 dagger, but no makers mark
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Then your dagger is probably a full ground Rohm dagger with also the makerlogo removed. 188/35 is an unknown maker. Please post some pictures of your dagger. Thx.
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the motto looks like the motto on rzm 188/35 daggers
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I have an Numbered ss dagger m 1933, all nickel fittings and nickel eagel, the blade has no maker mark, When the factory removed the R�hm inscription , often some of the makers mark remained on the blade. But where there earls 1933 daggers whitout makers mark? And did some maker erase both inscription and makers mark from the blade? In wittmans ss book he writes that some early blades had no mm
Best Fredrik Hello Fredrik, I own one of these early daggers,without TM! The motto pattern on these unmarked blades are always the same. In my experience, Regards, Gerd
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It has a rather big gap between the Grip and the lower crossguard, but The Fit to The higher crossguard is Perfect, It could be an replacement grip or How much is The maximum gap on an original grip?
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It has a rather big gap between the Grip and the lower crossguard, but The Fit to The higher crossguard is Perfect, It could be an replacement grip or How much is The maximum gap on an original grip?
/Fredrik Sorry for any confusion Fredrik,but I meant the gap from the cross guard to the motto.It looks similar to mine! Gerd
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Ok,and I meant The gap between grip and lower crossguard 😀
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the motto looks like the motto on rzm 188/35 daggers Not the same motto imo. Look carefull to the 'e's... Imo a full ground R�hm SS dagger with low SS servicenumber.
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Ok thanks, ss man 3509 was Andreas Turnhofer and he joined ss 1930. He was also a partymember whit rather low members number, in The 290000 region
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the motto looks like the motto on rzm 188/35 daggers ........ Imo a full ground R�hm SS dagger with low SS servicenumber. A R�hm dagger......from what kind of maker are you talking about? No B�ker,Eickhorn,Hammesfahr,Herder,or Klaas. Regards, Gerd
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may be that the lower crossguard has been replaced??
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If The lower is changed, then The upper must have been changed too, both is in The same material and have the same patina, and The Fit to The blade is Perfect, early daggers Where hand fitted, also the grip fits great whit the crossguards, only one bigger gap on obe side against The lower crossguard.
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the motto looks like the motto on rzm 188/35 daggers ........ Imo a full ground R�hm SS dagger with low SS servicenumber. A R�hm dagger......from what kind of maker are you talking about? No B�ker,Eickhorn,Hammesfahr,Herder,or Klaas. Regards, Gerd Guards might be Eickhorn. But I also realize that the runesbutton is not the type Eickhorn used. (which isn't a red flag eventually) He can very carefully open the dagger and look if the guards are 'H E' marked...
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