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#319867 07/01/2016 01:33 PM
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Anyone know this maker or have any idea how old this sword is ? No pics yet but a friend whose Japanese translated the markings on the tang and she said it says, Hizenokuni (place) Chukichi (name)...will post pics soon as I can resize them ...

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Try a google search of the following.
Hizen kuni, Chukichi

Should bring up some info for you.


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Thanks !

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hi ike
yes pictures would help solve this mystery to age this japanese sword for you . i can not read the canji but can figure if its a true japanese sword or possible chinese from what you say it might be doesnt sound like japanese canji but the japanese woman might be on targetwho knows please send pictures thanks have a nice day andy militarynut

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Yes ...I know pics are the most definitive way to try and date items. My friend is mainland Japanese so I'm guessing if it was Chinese characters ...she wouldn't be able to read it. The tang has two holes fairly close together ...it's in standard military mounts with a leather cover on the scabbard ...the vet who I got it from had carved his name in the scabbard. I'm wondering if it's an old sword that was cut down for use during WW2. My pis are to large to post so I have to re-size them before I can post them. I did look up the name on the tang and will post what I found

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Chukichi the first was a swordsmith of Hizen Shinto (modern sword).

His early swords are called 'Gojitada-mei' and most of them are believed to be signed as 'Hizen no kuni (Hizen Province) Chukichi'.

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hi ike
just looked thru my japanese sword bokks pertaining to japanese swords smiths there is no sword maker by the name of chukichialso no smith by the name of gojitada eith from hizen province best you get some one else to read the kanji and let us know if anything changes have a great day andy militarynut

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Here is the tang ...thought I had a proper translation but maybe not ...curious why there are two hole in the tang ...does that imply an old bald that was put into new mounts ? It currently is in military mounts ...will get more pics soon ...thanks

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hi ike
this is a full signiture to bad i cant read it im sure if mr. coleman sees this he can read it coleman is good but any way its defenitly japanese sword and hasnt been cut down full tang the reason there is more then one hole in the tang it means it was fitted twice in its life who knows it might have gone thru the russo war when you get time please show the military mounts thanks have a great 4th july holiday god bless america andy militarynut

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Hi ike,

Could be Hizen no Kuni Tadayoshi

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hi mark thanks for the translation thats a start although in hawleys book there are pages of tadayoshi s hard to nail him down no kuni tadayoshi might help only thing that helps here is in my opinion this blade is approx year 1600 -1650 and he probly is a fifteen point smith which is good for this era blade hope you all agree have a great day andy militarynut

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Hi All,

I've had a quick look through Mr Robertshaw's book - The school of Hizen Tadayoshi but need more details of the blade and it's characteristics to even make a wild guess.

All the best

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hi mark
I will take a wild guess on this blade I know I'm right on target from what I see with the tang and original signiture the color of the steel and shape tells me its probly the above dates I stated so whats great about the Hawley Japanese sword smiths it can narrow down all the tadayoushi smiths from this early era most of them are 15 point smiths you can rule out any tadayoushi smiths that made after year 1650 it is not years 1500s 1700s or 1800s hope this helps you last in my opinion the Hawley Japanese sword smiths books are the bible for Japanese swords have a great day andy militarynut

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Yes, mei is Tadayoshi, but, no generation signed it in my opinion. Max

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hi max
yes hard to tell thru pictures but it certainly looks like tadayoushi it would look better if we had the blade in our hands pictures arnt easy thanks for your poat andy militarynut

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Hi Andy, if the Hada looks like a velvety peach skin, it might be from the Hizen school and I've only seen this hada in the first 3 generations and the 4th gen. Cheers. Max

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hi max
i think your right on target but we cant be sure have to inspect it in hand hard call have a great day andy militarynut


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