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Interesting.
That maker is not known to have made SS daggers, so a very close examination of the blade is needed.
The grip? I would like to see more.
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Imo very well made but not genuine. This maker didn't made SS daggers. Is the inscription made by laser or acid? Post a very clean and detailed picture of the inscription and makermark if you will please. Thx
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just to note. In this hobby much information is learned as the hobby progresses. Many records were either destroyed or did not exist. Just because a maker of SS or other daggers is hereto unknown does not mean that they are not period or authentic....it merely means, in some cases that an example has not yet surfaced. The handle and blade look outstanding. I agree that one would need to determine etc or laser. From the photos the tang and the cross graining and the motto look good. I cant see billet clamp marks on the tang but my eyes aren't what they used to be and sometimes these marks were ground away. Have SS dagger blades surfaced on the repro market from this maker? Red flags? mint single blade and handle.....Does anyone have an SA with trademark for comparison? cheers, Ryan
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There always the possibility of finding a new manufacturer. I remember getting the first known K&M dagger and it would be interesting if this is real.
That said, I am a little suspicious of great looking loose blades like this one. It is the first SS blade from that manufacturer that I have seen.
I think the grip is a recent fake. Unblemished surface looks painted. Eagle is aluminum from what I see so of a later era.
Who is selling these?
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I am not certain that grip adler is aluminum My first impression was mint (shiny) early again my eyes dont allow me to tell from photo....details very good also I can't tell that handle is painted you may be correct Dave but I see reflection of light causing shine are around sigrunen looks good to me again would need to see both blade and handle in hand to be 100% cheers
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There always the possibility of finding a new manufacturer. I remember getting the first known K&M dagger and it would be interesting if this is real.
That said, I am a little suspicious of great looking loose blades like this one. It is the first SS blade from that manufacturer that I have seen.
I think the grip is a recent fake. Unblemished surface looks painted. Eagle is aluminum from what I see so of a later era.
Who is selling these?
it's a seller on Ebay, but the sale was "removed" because of the runes! he wondered €300.00
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hmmmmmmmmmmmm ebay can be funny I bought a double proof NSKK Eickhorn chained she sold scabbard first (got it for $600 and then $300 for dagger) two separate listings because someone told her that they did not go together back in 2006 good old Ebay days sold dagger for $4000 Ebay also had a near mint SA high leaders scabbard with perfect leather sold for $3000 a steal Ebay used to be AMAZING
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I am suspicious of course for the very reasons you mention.....but one would have expected to have seen these high end fakes offered or shown up elsewhere high production volume to justify so ?????
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Laser etched blade, fake, out of Europe. 205.00 is the going rate, they come off eban, mostly.
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Laser etched blade, fake, out of Europe. 205.00 is the going rate, they come off eban, mostly. +1
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