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Would love to hear some comments on this brutalized war horse....
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What happened to the shank?
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I think someone is trying to make it look authentic.....what an ugly cut though...man!
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Nice original ring from Karelia. I know the seller. Shank looks like that someone tried to split it with nippers. May be it was soviets...who knows 
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Same ring
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Just another bad ring, casting signs all over.
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Agree with hap 100%. Nicht gut.
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My initial impression as well, and the cut just didn't look right, like they were trying to authenticate it.....great eye hapur
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This is scratches and dust, nothing serious, I don't see any problems
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Too much going on for one ring! Runes, swastikas, oak leaves, norge ship.. Just needs a skull and serpents and engraved 'm�ller' to finish it off.
Stay clear.
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The question is if anybody have seen such a ring before? If yes please post pictures....
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I have seen this ring some times ago on an other site.
I think was exact this ring.
I not to 100 % sure, but this would be no ring for my collection.
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder
aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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This is no scratch, this typical is investment inclusion or dirty metal. After acid bath past casting dirt was removed and left cavity like this.
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Typical casting balls / air bubbles at typical places left after incomplete investment vacuuming. This ring has no chances at all.
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hi hapur
this norge ss ring is all most believble being cut or possibly schrapnel marks in battle ww2 i have seen in the last 40 years a few lugers k-98 rifles and helmets with schrapnel holes to me this tells the story of the combat battle . but beings you as an expert ring maker spoted the casting balls air bubles well that blows my story out of the water i would like to bestow a title for you here perhaps we could call you the g.d.c. otto gahr ring firms expert how does that sound guys . i would also like to thank you hapur for all the good expert advice you have given us here on g.d.c. plus you have saved us some hard earned money buying faked up rings thanks very much god bless andy militarynut
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Many bring backs were snipped of dead ring owners as souvenirs or trade and "I got this of an SS officer" stories.
This one has definitely been given that 'failed attempt' to make it more deceiving.
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classic,,like making them look dug.,,now a soldiers 'cut'. This is a fantasy pattern period, never seen one I thought authentic..
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Another ring from russian FRJ collector collection.
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It's still a no from me, but thanks for sharing the pics. Regards, Mike
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hi hapur
this norge ss ring is all most believble being cut or possibly schrapnel marks in battle ww2 i have seen in the last 40 years a few lugers k-98 rifles and helmets with schrapnel holes to me this tells the story of the combat battle . but beings you as an expert ring maker spoted the casting balls air bubles well that blows my story out of the water i would like to bestow a title for you here perhaps we could call you the g.d.c. otto gahr ring firms expert how does that sound guys . i would also like to thank you hapur for all the good expert advice you have given us here on g.d.c. plus you have saved us some hard earned money buying faked up rings thanks very much god bless andy militarynut I second that! It's awesome to have someone on board that knows this much about the 'lost art' of making die struck rings, AND detecting those that aren't!! Also would like to add that if you wanna find a craftsman who takes his art as serious as Hapur, well, good luck with that! :-) He puts an unbelievable effort in making sure his work is perfect and his clients super-happy. Kudos to you, Sir! :-) Mark
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