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One of the hardest to find items from the Eickhorn catalogue is this hunting knife, pattern number 1056. You can see this pictured in the Kundendienst in the Forestry-Hunting section of the catalogue.

It has stag grips, 3 rivets, a straight crossguard and a leather scabbard. And, the 1935-41 seated squirrel TM.

While the dagger shows its age and the leather on the scabbard does as well, it was a no-brainer for me when I saw this available on the Cashi collection web site. The leather strap with the buckle has broken off of the rest of the strap. I will be looking to have it repaired. These things can`t all be in the super shape that Gary S finds, can they wink

I hope you like it as much as I do.

John

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Great "working mans" Eickhorn, I like it! Kevin.


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nice find John,i have never seen this type before,congrats

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hi ivan
spent the week end with that 1960s burn out and rubber hole harris the syracuse show sucked no treasures very very slow no money sure hope max will help us see you in max hope the baby is doing good best heydrich

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hi ivan
sorry for above message to you i will explain to you at max show we both call each outher names for fun didnt mean to use these words on this forum im sorry if i offended any one thanks andy militarynur

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Andy:

If you are talking about DD, I think you are doing him an injustice...he isnt totally burned out, yet wink

I love him, too.. he is an prince of an asset to the collecting community.

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hi john z
yes dd is the best most humble guy in this hobby i know i broke him in as a student to this great hobby he calls me his father and lately he calls me the master wonder why . the syracuse show was a bust when they opened saterday usually approx 800 people on line approx 75 were on line saterday when they opened sad but true no jobs no buying just nickle/dime items was a great show years ago but not any more hopefully it will change if your going to max come say hello you will see ivan working helping this old man with my treasures to my table in room c god bless andy militarynut

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Hello John What you have pictured above is Eickhorn's model 1433 , Look at the handle style..
A very rare hunting knife with this trademark..
I will miss you at the MAX as it always is a GREAT SHOW for me..

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Damast:

I will miss all of you guys as well, but I do have the SOS all booked.

I have no reference book that shows pattern 1433. This knife has the handle and the blade of a 1720 pattern, but the crossguard of the 1056, so I thought it was a 1056 type.

Can you tell me what reference or catalogue the 1433 is in.

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Yes, John the 1720 pattern is the new number for the Imperial 1433 (I have this in many Imperial, Wiemar Eickhorn catalogs and even a printing block in wood with the number 1433.)
Same item just updated the number in the 30s
Yes the cross-guard is different on the one you have..but than I would say you have a 1720 (Imperial number 1433) with different cross-guard..
I hope everyone can follow this.... I was just looking in a much older Eickhorn catalog..

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Picture of a few..

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Here are the pictures of the two knives in the Kundendienst.

It looks like the 1720 with the 1056 crossguard, yes...


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There were two dog head pommel Eickhorn forestry daggers listed on the Cashi website, one with a 35-41 TM and this one, with the double oval serrated tail mark.

I was scooped by someone from the UK (you know who you are, Gary) on the 35-41 marked one but did manage to get this other. It is not in super shape but is a unique example of the Eickhorn forestry art. It has scalloped clamshell and extended etches since it is a longer blade.

John

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This exact knife was shown on another thread here by Gary S, but, now that it has made its way across the pond to land in Canada, I want to add it to this thread.

A pickup direct from Gary at this year's SOS, this is a great, hefty working tool. Pictures of it are in the 1932 Eick catalogue on page 94 as pattern 356. I don't understand why Eick did not put their company logo on this, but it is what it is.

Heavy blade, hefty stag grips, an amazing blade with blood grooves and the evil looking sawback make this a must have for the JohnZ Eickhorn collection. Add to this a leather scabbard in super condition with hardly worn fittings and a nice brown frog to complete it.

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Super piece, John from the best stable!
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Indeed Paul, you are quite correct. I have a piece from the same stable & consider myself most lucky.


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I managed to get this dagger from Gary at the latest SOS.

It is a dog head pommel, beautiful stag grip, scalloped clamshell and gorgeous etches. Note that the etch differs from the double oval version... the dbl oval has the term Ges Gesch on both sides, whereas this 35-41 seated squirrel version does not, although the etch design is the same.

Also note that the scabbard length and details are different between the two.

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Here are the two side by side.

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Also an SOS pickup, here is a plain bladed hunting knife by Carl Eickhorn with the double oval serrated tail over CE maker mark. The only detraction to this is that the skinner knife is missing, something fairly common to these kinds of knives from the 1930 era.

I really like the hunting horn motif on the clamshell.

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Probably made as a display item to showcase the firm's capabilities, this is a massive spear head that to me is undoubtedly Third Reich.. looks at the swastikas in the design.

The wooden pole has been cut very short, but the beauty is in the spear head and its design.

Great stuff.

John

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Very nice hunting knives. I have never been into these, I think the hoof has always deterred me. The sawback is super, I will have to be on the lookout.
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Originally Posted by JohnZ
Also an SOS pickup, here is a plain bladed hunting knife by Carl Eickhorn with the double oval serrated tail over CE maker mark. The only detraction to this is that the skinner knife is missing, something fairly common to these kinds of knives from the 1930 era.

I really like the hunting horn motif on the clamshell.



Hello, I think it is interesting to see how close and nevertheless different some parts have been produced. To the left the EICKHORN lug and to the right the WKC lug of the WKC deluxe forest dagger. Although exactly the same motive, same position of the leaves and the acorns, both lugs are different.
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I should add for the sake of authenticity that the boar spear head that John Z shows is a post war creation, I first saw them around 2004, I believe that they are still making them as well as plain ones sometimes seen on Ebay.

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That is very hard to find beauty!
I have added the 1433 in my collection recently and they are unique pieces!
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Ger:

That is a beauty.


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I realy enjoyed seeing these great pictures of your wonderful Eickhorn collection, thanks for showing them!
Forestry daggers-cutlasses are realy something special smile

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It's rare that I buy anything thats not in tip top condition but in this case I couldn't resist, it's a variation of the Eickhorn 1720 pattern made during the war, I should think by this time they are using up the parts they have, overall its almost 16" long, they are a decent size knife, the blade is over 10" long by itself. The grip assembly is similar to the standard DJ hunting hirschfanger that is commonly seen but without the grip emblem.

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Interesting piece, Gary.

Thanks for showing.

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Interesting piece Gary. Quite a heavy item I should think , easy to see why that insubstantial belt loop strap couldn't take the strain! P


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Thanks guys, despite its condition its an extraordinarily rare knife from this period.

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Not bad for a couple of hundred Euros, Gary. An example of unique knowledge at work. I would have been concerned that it was a postwar piece with its non textbook characteristics and late trademark.

Again, great catch.

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For sure extremely rare. So in such special cases condition is only second rate and I dare to doubt that ever a better conditioned one will come by. Great addition to your collection, thank you for showing!
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A big thank you to Ger.. this 1433 is now at home in the Great White North.

Here are more pics of my latest addition.

John

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Your welcome John, enjoy this beauty!
I know its in good hands smile


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Pictured in the 1924 Eick catalogue (thanks, Gary, for this information) is this heavy hunting knife. It has a unique double row of rivets on the grip and, except for the damaged leather scabbard, is in pretty decent shape for something almost 100 years old.

I would be remiss in not thanking Ger for helping me find this knife (the 5th hunting knife to my collection). A nice Christmas present to myself.

Merry Christmas to all my hunting/forestry friends out there in GDC land.

John

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Another great knife John, in the 1924 catalouge I have it shows this pattern without the blood groove, in the later 1932 catalouge it shows it with the groove,

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Thx John, it fits in perfect in your beautiful Eickhorn collection, enjoy this heavy guy!

Nice to see it in the cataloque, thx for showing Gary!

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I have this exact model in dagger form as model 833.

This is the cutlass version. Same clamshell (boar attacked by dogs), same etches with the large antlered deer and Ges Gesch, same stag grip. Only, this one has the early single oval maker mark.

Now, I have both the cutlass and the dagger versions of this forestry model.

John

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Day after day this week, it was like Christmas.

Here is my latest arrival, fresh from an auction house in Germany.

It is an early back to back squirrel marked knife, looks like a type 356 from the Imperial catalogue but without the sawback. The scabbard is in poor shape, missing the acorn and screws. But, the blade is nice and heavy. I like it a lot.

And, finally, a picture of my 6 Eickhorn hunting knives.

John

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Oh my John, the best of the best! I like these knifes.

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