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Tristan, I was trying to identify my roan rearing dappled horse that has a Royal Dux stamp in blue ink inside a raised Octagon like ALLACH. It also has A.Rohring with the umlatt and "881" on top of an "85" impressions in the base of the statue. I found the Allach # 95 white rearing stallion and after reviewing the photos realized that the 881 is very similar but is not the #95 Allach. Do you know if while Germany controlled Czechoslovakia after WWII that A. Rohring might have stamped his work as Royal Dux while working at the ALLACH factory? Because Royal Dux porcelain should have a pink triangle on it somewhere (http://www.vernerporc.de/roan-pferd-luxor-881) This website shows my roan stallion and it is labeled as Royal Dux but mine does not have a pink triangle but does have the Allach Octagon. Very strange. His ears are damaged; I was thinking about sending him to a very good porcelain repair shop in Italy that I sent an Augarten rearing stallion to.


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Starzagazin. Sorry, I don't have an answer for you re Rohring's Rearing Horse. I, too, have one like yours except it is numbered 88 (as well as the 881), and has the Allach octagon but this contains no logo of any kind.
I would certainly have the ears repaired as this would not be a big or expensive job.

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hi members
can any one tell me where or how is our buddy and main man bill warder ww2 is he ok sure hope so maybe perhaps a long deserved vacation he is due please if any one hears please let us know what say baz any news best andy militarynut

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Bill is fine,

I have just returned from a trip over to see him, he's just taking a sabbatical from collecting for a while.

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That's good news! I think some of us were beginning to worry.

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hi baz
thank you very much and so glad he is doing good he deserves a rest tell him we are missing him here this friend of so many years of friendship and is so knowledgble in his field and very helpfull to all guys here on this great forum hurry up back bill gott mitt uns bill andy militarynut

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Originally Posted By: starzagazin
Tristan, I was trying to identify my roan rearing dappled horse that has a Royal Dux stamp in blue ink inside a raised Octagon like ALLACH. It also has A.Rohring with the umlatt and "881" on top of an "85" impressions in the base of the statue. I found the Allach # 95 white rearing stallion and after reviewing the photos realized that the 881 is very similar but is not the #95 Allach. Do you know if while Germany controlled Czechoslovakia after WWII that A. Rohring might have stamped his work as Royal Dux while working at the ALLACH factory? Because Royal Dux porcelain should have a pink triangle on it somewhere (http://www.vernerporc.de/roan-pferd-luxor-881) This website shows my roan stallion and it is labeled as Royal Dux but mine does not have a pink triangle but does have the Allach Octagon. Very strange. His ears are damaged; I was thinking about sending him to a very good porcelain repair shop in Italy that I sent an Augarten rearing stallion to.


For what it's worth, not all Royal Dux pieces have the pink triangle applied to the base. I have seen Dux pieces with just a blue-green underglaze mark with the name of the company.

Here's a website with a lot of detail about Royal Dux markings that can help with dating pieces: http://www.realorrepro.com/article/Royal-Dux:

With regard to restoration of the horse in question, it appears to be recent production based on the colorway (this horse was also produced in chestnut, dappled chestnut, a more speckled dapple gray, and glazed white bisque in addition to the dapple gray shown here). I would hesitate to invest too much money to have it professionally restored because these guys appear on Ebay on a somewhat regular basis. I believe they are still being produced by the company, or were at least produced through the 1990s and there may still be a lot of deadstock around. They can be had mint with packaging for about $150, perhaps as low as $100 if you're lucky. (I note that the website you linked to has that horse at around $150 after conversion to USD)

Just my two cents from years of collecting and researching horse figures. smile

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Also great to hear that Mr. Warda is doing well. Thanks for the update!

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Been a quiet summer on the collecting front but lucky to have picked up these two Allach pieces recently.
First is the 'Madchen nach den Bade' by Ricard Forster, no. 73 and according to Dennis Porell's book only 100 pieces produced in 1938 1nd 1939.
Second, and one of my favourite pieces, is the 'Mutter und Kind' by P. Horn, no. 98, his only Allach piece. The detail is superb and the mother almost 'lives' her adoration for the child.

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Advice needed, please.
What is a fair collector to collector price for the Allach Munchner Kind ? She is in perfect condition and for the past 25 years has been the property of my wife, who now wishes me to sell this figurine for her.
I sold all my Allach 25 years back, but gifted this piece to my wife. I am out of touch with value so would much appreciate a guide price before entering the piece on the Estand. Thank you.

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These come up fairly regularly in German art/militaria auctions although I must admit I do not follow the prices.
I would imagine a figure in the region of £700 would not be far way. Third Reich Arts has one at the moment that has some damage to it and he is asking 725USD.

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Thank you, Tristan.

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Hello Gents,

Just sharing a long-overdue update on equines I've added to my ever-evolving herd since the beginning of the year. I've been very fortunate to have a string of good luck in negotiating purchases from private collectors, and the occasional Ebay find. As it was, I had to part with many of my lower-tier pieces to accommodate these new acquisitions, but I hope you will agree that the sacrifice was worth the results. And now, without further ado...

Ca. 1950's Rosenthal standing foal sculpted by Professor Theodore Karner:



Ca. 1935 Hutschenreuther pony stallion sculpted by Fritz Diller:





Enormous (14" tall!)Hutschenreuther piece depicting a Riding School of Vienna Lipizzaner in Levade pose with rider (This piece is more commonly seen in a smaller scale version that was produced for many decades, but the larger size shown here seems to have been produced in the latter 20th century):





Now for a couple of pieces from Germany's neighbor to the North, Denmark.

Ca. 1938 Royal Copenhagen Windswept Horse sculpted by Lauritz Jensen:



And last but not least, the Crown Jewel of my collection, an outstanding example of a ca. 1935 Royal Copenhagen Cart Horse sculpted by Carl-Johan Bonnesen:





Yup, definitely been busy! smile

Happy hunting, all!

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As a follow-up to the image spree above, I seem to recall someone requested a "family portrait" of some of my horses. Here are the two Danish draft horses, plus another Danish drafter (this time Bing & Grondahl) that has been in my collection for a few years. This grouping has been dubbed "The Holy Trinity" by other collectors, lol. smile



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Very nice, but my favorite must be the Lipizzaner!

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Thank you, Tristan! And yes, the Lipizzaner piece is extremely impressive in person. smile

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Did anyone here see/purchase this piece? I like the treatment of the fine porcelain combined with the steel helmet.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rosenthal-Allach...t-/331636979360

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Hi Tiberius...Ive seen these before,but not often. They are not Rosenthal and certainly not Allach and I would guess 1920s.
I have a similar bust, but without the black helmet and the tunic collar. The makers emblem is a blue crown, un-numbered. The quality is not that good close up!

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It is Rosenthal and a totally different piece.

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Tristan, I'm confused. Are you saying that the green Rosenthal mark and the Rosenthal catalog documentation for the Ebay piece have been forged? They look pretty authentic to me.

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Sorry, guys...my fault. When I clicked on the eBay link I got no details as I was told it had been sold. I have no reason to doubt it is a Rosenthal piece, and that mine is an entirely different bust.

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...if I could add something more it is doubt about the date of the piece. The stock number of 710 would date it 1924 and not 1932 as claimed in the advert, but it is not possible to check this as there is no photo of the Rosenthal logo.

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Hello Tristan.

The following images were included in the original listing. You have to poke around Ebay to go back and see the full listing and associated images once an item has been sold. Hope this is helpful! smile













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P.S. - Just look at those prices in the catalogue!

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Thanks, Tiberius....more care less haste!
Looking at the logo it is as near to the 1932 logo as (possibly) makes no difference, but in the book there is no 'dot' underneath the joining of the two rose stems. Maybe the answer is that Karner,s design was in the 1920s and reissued in 1932.

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Haven't had anything to post for some time but I picked up a couple of RPT plates recently.
The pewter one is specifically for the 1933 rally, but the other two are general.

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Nice commemorative rally plates.
Isn't there a Nurnberg pewter plate that has Hitler saluting troops scene?

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Yes, there is and it comes up from time to time.

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Hello all ,

please have a look on this Foxterrier made by Pfeffer M?hle and in my family since 1937 :


[img]http://http://s1051.photobucket.com/user/saturnin73/media/DSCN4031_zps6gi22nva.jpg.html[/img]

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***please anyone helps me to open the pic , tks ***

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Hello and merry Thanksgiving ,

after many trials here is my Fox-Terrier

http://phpstack-500133-1583587.cloudwaysapps.com/~germand2/tmp/193874.jpg

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This thread is a wealth of information and images. A tribute to the man who started it and everyone who contributed to it.

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