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Wondering if anybody else has heard of other cased daggers, SA,SS, Luft,nskk,hj,navy, including any High Leaders cases? This would be very informative to us?
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I know that HJ leader daggers came in a leather case and I have seen a picture of an SA Feldherrnhalle in a case being presented.
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What color was the case and was there a extra compartment for hangers?
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I have seen one army case that might have been authentic. The construction and age looked authentic, but it was the case only, no dagger. I don't recall what the interior looked like. I would think if it was used as a presentation accoutrement, the dagger must have been special. Perhaps a presentation piece with personalized etched or Damascus blade, ivory grip, etc.?
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Great care is needed in this area to avoid frauds. I know of the FHH presentations to Lutze and Russo; the Naval Honour dagger casings; the HJ Leader casings; and the presentation RAD Leader casings. I have personally not seen an original case for the SA/SS Honour dagger. One off presentation casings do exist, e.g., the Sepp Dietrich LAH presentation sword casing. . Here is an early 20th century knife box that I fitted out to accept an SA honour dagger. So, great care is needed to determine originality.
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Most WWII German swords and daggers were packaged in a paper bag or simply wrapped in Kraft paper. Some had cloth bags that came from the factory.
Some East German daggers came in a presentation case while most were simply supplied in a cardboard box. DDR General Officer daggers came in a presentation case but one must be careful of these as they have been reproduced.
Here is a cased DDR General Officer dagger and a DDR bayonet in its original packaging.
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I agree with Orpo's assessment.
Here is a box that is suppose to be for a SS or SA presentation dagger. Beautifully done. Silk interior showing wear. a small notch in one end to fit the daggers lower tip. Black leather with gold trim. Actually about 1/8 inch shorter than most Early SA's.
Under no circumstances would I ever hold this up to be original.
But, it is the best I have seen.
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hi jim w the case that barry brown shows as he says was altered beautifully to fit his great looking and beautifull dagger . the box is period done i would say late 1930 40s for another object then barry fited it for his dagger great taste barry . i have a simular period box just as nice that if some one would like to fit a magnificent dagger in it these period made boxes just doesnt exist any more i look all the time for them and old period ring boxes when some one buys a ss honor ring from me i sell it with a period made box they look so great . barry if you have another great dagger that needs a box you can e mail me at andy militarynut best andy
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Here's one that came in a case.
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hi john there was quite a few of these cased fake but eye appealing daggers and hangers i cant see the blade on this cased rad dagger i ont like the looks of the hangers so i doubt if the dagger is real period the case is a no brainer for the third reich period hope all agrees have a great day andy militarynut
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I found out I had an SS dagger that was a perfect fit for the case. Here is the photo.
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I doubt that is an original case, but nice daggers deserve to be displayed well. Here's a period knife box I fitted out to house an SA Honour.
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hi barry real nice box from the looks its possible it is close to a period made silverware box i had many over the years with english silverware shefffield makers i still have a few well made period made 194o/50s made you couldnt buy better quality in today market the best thing you can change the molding and velvet interior no problems thanks for showing these great looking daggers and boxes have a nice day andy militarynut
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Hi Andy; it had a silver plate serving spoon when I found it. I stripped out the inner and shaped a new former from balsa to fit the dagger and covered with the retained velvet cloth, head liner silk is as found. As you say the period knife boxes can't be beat, worth the effort to hunt them down.
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Hi Barry that case is very cool but not nearly as cool as the SA, i can only dream of owning such an item.
Regards Sean
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Thanks Sean: I got lucky with that one,an old time collector/friend I knew back in the day was breaking his collection up.
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hi barry hope this e mail finds you doing well yes my box has the same size and interia red velvet also i believe held the same silver shovel type spoon the hinges and hardware is period done for a 1940s magnificent dagger like yours. im happy for you that you have such a magnificen honor dagger god bless hurry up get another one then i will have to sell you my box have a nice day andy militarynut
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