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#303626 12/21/2014 12:39 AM
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Completed a massive reorganization and update to the Armband Gallery. The Gallery now has over 500 armbands included wink


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Vern #303630 12/21/2014 02:44 AM
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Looking good!! Sent you an email. laugh

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Added a few more, now have 660 armbands including some rare NSKOV Gau armbands wink Did a little more reorganization for the Veteran services.


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Vern #304015 01/04/2015 04:56 AM
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Someone spent a long time getting all those NSKOV Gau armbands. Impossible to get them all I would say though as there was so many Gaus

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A total of 42 Gaus with 4 name changes between 1934 and 1945 for a total of 46 wink


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And then x2 for the leader ones, which is impossible to finish for sure, you only see the same common 2 usually

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I think a few more are coming wink Here's a list of the Gaus..........

Gaus (1934-1945)

Baden
Bayerische Ostmark (renamed Bayreuth in 1943)
Berlin
Danzig (renamed Danzig - Westpreussen in 1939)
Düsseldorf
Essen
Franken
Halle-Merseburg
Hamburg
Hessen-Nassau
Koblenz-Trier (renamed Moselland in 1942)
Köln-Aachen
Kurhessen
Kurmark
Magdeburg-Anhalt
Mecklenburg
München-Oberbayern
Osthannover
Ostpreußen
Pommern
Rheinpfalz (merged in 1935 to form Pfalz–Saar - renamed Saarpfalz in 1937 and Westmark in 1942)
Saarland (merged in 1935 to form Pfalz–Saar - renamed Saarpfalz in 1937 and Westmark in 1942)
Sachsen
Schleswig-Holstein
Schwaben
Schlesien (split in 1940 to form Niederschlesien and Oberschlesien)
Sudhannover-Braunschweig
Thüringen
Unterfranken
Weser-Ems
Westfalen-Nord
Westfalen-Sud
Württemberg-Hohenzollern (renamed Württemberg in 1935)

Gaus formed after 1934

Tirol-Vorarlberg (1938)
Wien (1938)

Kärnten (1939)
Niederdonau (1939)
Oberdonau (1939)
Salzburg (1939)
Steiermark (1939)
Sudetenland (1939)
Wartheland (1939)

Flandern (Dec 1944) - no NSKOV armbands known
Wallonien (Dec. 1944) - no NSKOV armbands known


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Vern #304303 01/13/2015 06:03 PM
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Another update, now at 725 armbands. Thanks to a couple of our members who sent photos of some rare veteran armbands from their collection, and a special thanks to members of the Kyffhäuserbund e.V. who sent photos of some rare higher rank armbands from their archive! They visited the site and offered to help fill some of the gaps in the gallery. Hopefully, more to come!


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Vern #304442 01/19/2015 02:19 AM
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Very cool seeing all the NSRKB, NSKOV and Kyffhauserbund armbands. Probably the biggest online database of them. Didn't think I would see most of them

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762 and still coming in wink Added some varieties and updated the identification for the French and Polish resistance armbands.


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Vern #304474 01/20/2015 06:42 PM
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Another update of over 40 armbands related to the Judenlaw, ghettos, and camps. I thought about this one for a while due to both the sensitivity of the subject and the rarity of the items. Around 99% of the armbands seen on the internet are fakes. A friend who works at the National Holocaust Museum convinced me that this would help collectors dodge the fakes, so it's up now. Because most of these armbands are handmade, each is a unique piece. If you find one offered for sale, it is probably a fake wink All of the armbands shown have been authenticated by the Museum as original period armbands.


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I just skimmed through the armband section and all I can say is WOW!

Thank your for this, Vern, a super reference list.

John


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Thank you, and a big thanks to all who have sent in photos and information for the galleries. Couldn't do it without them!


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I never knew half of these existed, i just love this forum thanks Vern


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Vern,,some corrections for the reference:

this SS..Only originals of this were printed,,and I've never seen one on a armband,possible,,but they were usually sewn right on the arm..
This is a product of CIA auction in Indiana. They made plenty of these, banners, armbands etc. I Have a SS command pennant somewhere. I'll did it out to post.
All have the same type stitching and material,,kind of like a cotton canvas type on some.. I'd say this is 99% bad..

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these holocaust. These 2 are 100% bad. IF I still had my 'Counterfeiting the Holocaust' book it would show them and even the ink stamps. Believe it or not these are from CIA too. He made a lot of product!!

The striped P armband,,is a reunion piece. You'll see them sometimes in postwar reunion shots..

There are a few other I'm not comfortable with but I need more evidence to call them out..

On holocaust bands,,most are bad. Any of the burlap backed and heavy zigzag stitching are bad,,anything to complicated are bad.
Camp Kapo band or other camp band would be very hard to find a survivor. A Ghetto band I say 99% are bad..

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seems like eBay has a 5 part thing on fake holocaust armbands..
Much of the info [really all] seems to be from the book C.t H. mentioned above. IF your even thinking on collecting holocaust items this book is a MUST find!

http://www.ebay.com/gds/FAKE-HOLOCAUST-A...04315646/g.html



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Thanks! I'll make the corrections. Most of the Holocaust armband photos came from the Holocaust Museum in Washington, DC. A friend of mine works there and provided the photos and a lot of information.


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Vern, the DC museum is a great place no doubt. But over the years they have had some problems with authenticating items.. It is just now they seem to have things going pretty well.

The books author was an employee of the museum years ago. He left and his work is unparalleled in the fake holocaust industry. The book is old now but still a must if you want to venture even close to this area of collecting!

2nd photo. In a dusty corner of my old shop this SS command flag still is there! Same runes, stitching, material as the armband.. Many got burned on his pieces...

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Thanks again. I haven't forgotten this, I'm just busy with a few other things. I knew the museum had some problems but they have been working through their collection. Part of their problem was accepting the information that came with donated items. Kind of like the vet purchased B&A dagger that was taken from a captured General wink


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