#30603
02/03/2010 08:45 PM
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I have been offered this blade for $900.00 what do you think of it please?
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#30604
02/03/2010 08:46 PM
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a ground down Rohm thats been reworked ?
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#30605
02/03/2010 08:49 PM
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could this of been done in 39
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#30606
02/03/2010 09:37 PM
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Wes, Rather buy a minty regular SA with that money ... Bill
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#30607
02/03/2010 10:27 PM
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he has a real nice puma trans with three peice hanger for eight hundred bucks, but this blade looks special and there's not a lot of info in my books for these.here's a shot of the puma he has for sale
p3.jpg (45.43 KB, 575 downloads)
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#30608
02/03/2010 10:30 PM
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maker mark side
p4.jpg (46.2 KB, 570 downloads)
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#30609
02/03/2010 10:45 PM
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Good suhl dagger was ruined...
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#30610
02/03/2010 10:52 PM
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Something smells too good to be true- MJM
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#30611
02/03/2010 10:53 PM
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#30612
02/03/2010 11:54 PM
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So then the honor blade is post war etched on a ground rohm and is ruined and not worth the money?
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#30613
02/04/2010 12:52 AM
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Wes: There's alway a healthy dose of skepticism when something like this surfaces. You best bet is to run it by Frederick Stephens, who is an authority on etches, and get his opinion. I am going to withhold mine for now but I suspect it's similiar to Mike Ms. Jim
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#30614
02/04/2010 01:01 AM
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Wes these dedications are a maze in which you can get lost forever, then stagger out bankrupt. I avoid them completely. Mike
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#30615
02/04/2010 01:08 AM
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#30616
02/04/2010 02:24 AM
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quote: Originally posted by WWII: Wes, Rather buy a minty regular SA with that money ...
Excellent words to live by. Also, if Mike Mac won't touch them, you shouldn't either
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#30617
02/04/2010 04:25 AM
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I hear ya ...it's just they look so nice and to find a deal on one thats eccepted as real, well that would fantastic eh?
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#30618
02/04/2010 10:29 AM
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Red flag to me is why is it only $100 more than a very desirable transitional dagger with a $120 hanger rig to boot.Puma every time no contest IMO
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#30619
02/04/2010 01:15 PM
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This etched suhl dagger has been for sale about few months here in Europe in one on-line action site...and now we have this mess here again
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#30620
02/04/2010 02:12 PM
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I on the other hand think a in hand would be the best way to approach this.Just because mike will not buy them does not make every one a fake.If you can tell from pics your pretty dang good.There are alot of of personal dedacations done on daggers so we must not rule them out yet. just my two cents.
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#30622
02/04/2010 04:31 PM
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ok well i should clear up that the honor blade for nine hundred is just the blade and not the whole dagger to my understanding. and the puma transitional is complete for eight hundred.he has sent me emails from both toms ,wittman and johnson who agree that the blade dedication maybe alright but they need to inspect in hand first before giving a final ok.
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#30623
02/04/2010 05:29 PM
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As Adam wrote, it is obviously a computer font. Honestly, do you really believe, that someone sell it for 900$...and for twice? As I wrote, this dagger has been for sale on market few months later...and now here it is again...save your money.
Lukas.
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#30624
02/04/2010 05:44 PM
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thanks, i did pass on all of them. did you see the F.dick full rohm i posted in the rohm section? he has it for sale as well.
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#30625
02/05/2010 11:06 AM
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Puma Looks to made up of "parts". Differing time periods
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#30626
02/05/2010 03:20 PM
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man this guy keeps sending me pictures of all this stuff , he sent me christmas dagger photos this morning.I stop beleving after he told me the two toms offered him x amount for the SA honor dagger.I think he's running some sort of con here , he's tring to hard
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#30627
02/05/2010 03:50 PM
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nice, Christmas with what looks like painted scabbard and plated fittings- would make a nice filler if cheap-Mike
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#30628
02/05/2010 04:38 PM
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$4000.00 not to cheap. and there all on different backgrounds, he is tring to hard to sell. maybe it's are old con man pawel with a new email address?
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#30629
02/05/2010 04:48 PM
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if these are all his daggers for sale i appolgise for thinking that this maybe a con. he does have good feedback on ebay and these are some nice looking daggers that i posted of his here. and i am only looking for the straight goods on these (real or not) is for you guys to judge. most of us dont have a lot of money to waste on bad stuff. but if something looks good i can pass along his email contact for anyone wishing more info..sorry i never meant to offend the selller or anyone.
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#30630
02/06/2010 12:17 AM
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Those Christmas Daggers "Start" around $7000 as of last year.
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#30631
02/06/2010 12:25 AM
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quote: wes_143
Posted 03 February 2010 17:27 he has a real nice puma trans with three peice hanger for eight hundred bucks, but this blade looks special and there's not a lot of info in my books for these.here's a shot of the puma he has for sale
The cross guards are differing the upper looks solid nickel and the lower looks to be plated. It looks to be "parts" dagger but I will not comment on the blade. I would like to see a close up of the inscription. The 3pc hanger looks nice,,from here. Best Larry
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#30632
02/06/2010 01:22 AM
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here's the close up of the front and back for you
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#30633
02/06/2010 01:23 AM
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#30634
02/06/2010 02:37 AM
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What is that under the letter "S" of Solingen,,, is that a finger print?
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#30635
02/06/2010 03:01 AM
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a shame is'nt it.? a small spot above the LL's in the front motto to.but still a nice looking blade dont you think?
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#30636
02/06/2010 03:12 AM
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It is a nice blade, but the continuous "In and Out" is not doing it any justice. I like the RZM logo, I have one like that on a Mid period NSKK
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#30637
02/10/2010 02:58 AM
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Theres no way this is a Christmas dagger. Look at the lettering in the motto and besides that this blade is a transitional. To my understanding Christmas daggers were the very first ones that were issued to high ranking officers back in 33. No dagger had RZM markings during that time period. JMHO. Cheers, Raul.
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#30638
02/11/2010 02:48 AM
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sorry i was showing you three different daggers here, i only posted the one shot of the christmas dagger. the puma was asked about so i posted the front and back of it. nobody asked to see more of the other daggers .
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