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Hello guys!
What is your oponion?
Original officer visor?
(dealer photos)


Thank you
Best regards
Sandor

Sandor,

Get the pictures and post them here directly, please. Your links did not work.

My friend Sandor asked me to post these photos to his topic. Here they come.
Any opinions are welcome.
Janos

Sorry Dave. Im new topic maker
Janos! thank you. next beer is mine

So, need help to me?
Looks like good and real maker, but the what are these wrinkles on hat?
maybe resewn the top of the visor?

(unfortunatly no more closer pictures.)

thank you
Sandor

no answer? tip, help?

Piping is wavy and puckered, and not just to the crown--not a good sign.

sorry not a visor guy.. I've had a few. This kind of looks ok,,but the piping as mentioned is weird. Maybe [only because I've experienced it] it has gotten wet along the way?

I feel the same as Gaspare. It looks OK to me, but I am far from an expert on visor caps. It does look like it has been heavily washed, or otherwise cleaned, which is no problem as to authenticity. It is difficult to tell if the outer dark green band is wool or velvet. Wool was used on NCO/EM caps, velvet on officer types. But, it was not unusual for an NCO to be promoted to officer, retain his old cap and add officer trappings to it. As to the piping, it does look odd. There was a regulation, if memory serves, that the size of the piping must be the same diameter throughout. It appears in the photo the upper (crown) piping is noticeably larger than the lower piping, But, again, I have seen supposedly authentic examples with this anomaly. The puckering could be a result of the cleaning process. It looks like someone put it in a washing machine. I would not call this cap a "textbook" example. It does not appear to conform with the standard German manufactured caps. But (again), this maker was used by many known makers and usually for substandard caps. It is something of a "generic" label, for lack of a better word. Of course, if the piping is gold, as it appears to be, it would designate a general officer. The maker shield appears to be celluloid, which is correct, but not necessarily a sign of authenticity. Caps and uniforms of the period were not all manufactured in Germany. Some were made in occupied countries, such as France, and Italy, a German ally, also produced German examples. This can account for slight variations, anomalies and quality in standard uniform wear. The problem with this cap is some collectors will always doubt its authenticity and that could be a problem when it comes time to sell it. Since it is not "textbook," I would not pay a great deal for it.

I believe that it was the one I sold at SOS. It is just and old
poorly stored visor hat that suffers moth holes and poor storage and cleaning by the vet that I purchased it from. The uniform jacket was even worse.

Thanks Alex and Janos

Not a problem this is what we are all about helping and sharing.

There were some visors on ebay recently that had the same look. Rumpled up with similar look to the piping. I can't seem to find them now so they may have been pulled.