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No.
I suspect that the way it was to be done is to position the button so that they looked as they do on collar patches and flags. Some ended up that way and others at more or less of an angle.
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It never ceases to amaze me how many variations of this SS button there are (i.e. size. shape and positioning). Especially due to the fact that the Germans are extremely addicted to specific standards of grading/control.
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I've notice from research the the SS button ruins were dramatically slanted to the left from the "Rich.Abr.Herder" SS dagger manufacturer only.
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How about quantifying your research and posting a few pictures?
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I'd love to Dave but the attachment selection is not working for me for some reason? Nor will the site alert me when a new post is summited on the tread i'm followning
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OK, here is the image. I finally figured out how to attached on this forum. You know these forums are all a little different on their button/link locations.
I would like to credit the resource reference book that this image came from but have lost the original souse.
Also does anyone know how to switch from UBBCode to HTML
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Johnny,
Those two - Herder and Klass - are not slanted to the left. That is just the angle from which the photo was taken. They are all pretty much at the same angle.
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I've seen period Herder SS daggers and yes the button does (for some reason) slant toward the left. This is the only period SS dagger from that one single manufacturer that I've even seen that had that particular slant.
Could be some kind of a variant? Who knows why?
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Do you have some pictures?
Does anyone else have pictures of herder runes?
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Here is a SS stick pin that has the left slant to it. Still checking on a Herder image of the button. http://www.germanwarbooty.com/item-medals01/medals%20m4860.htm Johnny R.
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We're talking about dagger rune buttons
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Still looking for a Herder dagger image
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http://www.wwiidaggers.com/36715.htmNot a Herder, but shows SS Button variant slant.
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What manufacturer made that dagger?
It would be really interesting if your opening statement was true:
"I've notice from research the the SS button ruins were dramatically slanted to the left from the "Rich.Abr.Herder" SS dagger manufacturer only."
Merry Christmas,
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I own two herders. Both have straight runes. Here is one.  I don't think any maker was pre-disposed to any type of special runic angle. I think over time some may have turned from being dinged or wood changing or were just put in at a bit of an angle. But nothing intentional. Just my opinion. Hope all is well dave!-Raymond, Esquire. 
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I agree, Esquire.
I think the workers were told to instal the button so the runes looked like they did on flags. Same with the SA. Some ended up at slightly different angles as they were pressed into the circular recess.
I don't believe that they were just dropped into the recess. I think a good amount of pressure was used to seat them. Except for a badly cracked grip, I have never an SA or SS with a loose or rotatable rune button.
Has anyone else seen one?
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I thought Tom Wittmann said it was due to the wood expanding and contracting as well.
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I agree, Esquire.
I think the workers were told to instal the button so the runes looked like they did on flags. Same with the SA. Some ended up at slightly different angles as they were pressed into the circular recess.
I don't believe that they were just dropped into the recess. I think a good amount of pressure was used to seat them. Except for a badly cracked grip, I have never an SA or SS with a loose or rotatable rune button.
Has anyone else seen one? I guess you're right Dave. Here is a shot of another R.A. Herder Regards, Gerd
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