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#296817 04/22/2014 12:28 PM
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Hi,

I'm new to the forum and have been reading a lot of past threads. I've picked up a few army daggers and have the chance to purchase this klass army dagger, I only saved the photo of the crossguard but would like to know if this type is an accepted variant for this maker?

Cheers

Rhidian

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Rhidian #296818 04/22/2014 01:09 PM
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Although you already did post before first let me welcome you to the forum!
What you do show us here seems for me to be a legit early KLAAS crossguard variant. A lot of hand enhancement on the wings and the eagle´s chest. Also it looks like there is very nice untouched patination.
Will you please show us the whole dagger?
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wotan, gd.c-b#105

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wotan #296819 04/22/2014 01:11 PM
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Very interesting dagger and a rare variation cross-guard. Only a handful of daggers bearing this particular pattern are known as far as I am aware and the others are all fitted to Voos marked early army daggers.
I have always leaned towards Klaas manufacture on 1st appearances and it is great to finally have one turn up maker marked to a company other than Voos.

Do you know if the scabbard has asterisks stamped onto the scabbard bands ( unique Klaas trait )?.
It is a very rare cross-guard and one that I would be happy to add to my collection.
There are a couple of members here who are also lucky enough to own this cross-guard and will appreciate seeing this piece.

welcome to the forum.

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That’s a very rare crossguard only recently discovered and classified at this point as unattributed. I have only seen this guard on Emil Voos I have two on my site you can compare yours to. If your Klaas was textbook in other respects and the finish all matched I would take another look at it. This guard is so rare it’s unlikely it was married to this dagger.


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Seems Wotan - Jon and I all were typing and posting replies at the same time!


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Thanks for the quick reply's, I havnt got the dagger in hand yet and its the only photo I saved before he removed it from his site. I will take some more photos when it arrives. I wasn't sure if it was ok as I'd seen they only came on voos daggers.
The scabbard bands are stamped with the asterisk.

Cheers

Rhidian

Rhidian #296867 04/23/2014 09:25 PM
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Very interesting one here..scabbard band looks very Klaas for sure. Look forward to seeing more! Handwork to the beak and eye is very "Klaas" also..very like the treatment used on the Klaas second guard! Very interesting..could we have yet another early generic guard?? Kevin.

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Hi

The daggers arrived and I've taken some photos, sorry they are not the best but I have not got the hang of it yet. If you need any more pics let me know.

Cheers

Rhidian

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Last to pics, cheers.

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Rhidian #297417 05/09/2014 09:06 PM
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I like it ! Very rare crossguard.


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Thanks Tom for the comments, happy to know its all ok

Cheers

Rhidian

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My pleasure - You get tired of it I would have it in my collection any day !


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Really great looking heer! Rare variation!! I agree that it just looks "right", like this one Rhidian!! Kevin.


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Thanks again Kevin and Tom, I have a couple more armies to post when I get round to taking some photos.

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Rhidian


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