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From someone that just bought a dented beauty like this myself based on brass and pure patina...I applaud you my friend! This dagger has alot of "FLAVOR", it is super early, has a killer Wappen engraved on it and has a beauty of a dark slant grip. one day you will be online or paging through a book and see this Wappen! After you come to terms with the condition on a piece like this, you can just kick back and appreciate the FLAVOR.... Kevin.
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Kevin thanks my friend while condition is important to me History is more important and this dagger reeks of it. I love your way of thinking it sums up my feelings exactly. So do you think that is a knight’s helmet right below the three flowers or a vase ?
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Tom, That is what I thought from the beginning, knights helmet..you can see the "mantlet" of the helmet below the head, the part that sat on the wearers chest and shoulders, love to look at it with a magnifying glass or loupe! Also from an "ACS" anomalies angle it is interesting to see another example of the wreath casting flaw here..starting to make me wonder if this indicates that this is a later example of the initial ACS product, where the mold is showing wear, possibly prompting the move to the brass based ACS 2nd guard? Just a theory. As you pointed out, who has seen this hanger treatment where the original hangers were sewn right to the rings?? I never have, quite interesting to me and shows the endless variations that can be seen in these pieces! Kevin
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Kevin Thanks it’s hard to tell from the pictures but the wreath has been damaged in this spot. It was done after manufacture as the detail is completely gone in this spot with no attempt to cover it up with hand work.
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Tom, this other example is the same way..quite the coincidence for there to be two and in the same spot on the wreath! Kevin.
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Thanks to some help from a few collectors on another forum I believe this is the officer who owned the Alcoso. I suspected the dagger belonged to someone important but this exceeded my wildest expectations.
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... nice.
First history, than condition'. We aren't stamp collectors.
Best; Hermann
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Hermann Thanks ! Love that thought - We would like to have both but sometimes that doesn’t happen.
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Who would have though when you took a chance on this piece that it would have ended up being the property of a RK winning aristocrat!!?? CONGRATS on hitting it big, very interesting stuff Tom! Kevin.
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Wow Tom. Just love this story. To me this is what collecting is all about. it is the history. Congratulations. What a find. Rick
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Thanks guys I was quite happy. The Italy connection doesn’t match but that was just word of mouth by the dealer that the veteran spent some time in Sicily. Likely he picked up the dagger during the occupation or another campaign. Funny thing is the dealer (who got it from the family) that originally sold the dagger made no mention at all about the engraving on the back of the crossguard he is not a dealer that generally deals in German material just happened to pick this up.
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